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I got my eagle scout through an LDS scout troop. My oldest boy did the same. I have been a scout leader or parent volunteer many times over the years. BSA messed up when they gave into political pressure and now my youngest boy will not get those same experiences. I never saw a single thing at a boy scout event that was even close to being abuse. I saw a lot of worrying about avoiding bad situations, "two-deep leadership", etc. to make sure that bad things or false accusations did not occur.

I am sure there are plenty of isolated incidents of inappropriate behavior which is inevitable in any large organization. It certainly goes against everything the BSA and LDS Church teach and practice but predators are predators and learn how to accomplish their goals. Sponsoring an organization that ended up with a few bad apples and sponsoring specific acts are two totally different things.

Anybody looking for a settlement would definitely put a target on whoever has the largest check book. The LDS church's is certainly big enough to attract attention.

Sad state of affairs when an organization like the BSA that was built on solid values and worthwhile goals is brought to its knees by politics and lawyers.

Only if they are able to breathe.

As ive always said, lowyers sued the BSA to let Pedos in the kids and then sued the BSA because they let Pedos in the kids.

Now we know why Shakespeare said what he said.

Baseless and inaccurate. I don’t see anywhere that the Mormons or anyone else for that matter, have agreed that they sponsored any such claim of pederesty. Sponsoring intimates an open support of that activity, and nowhere is that claimed or proven.

As the link states, the Methodist Church was another huge sponsor of Scouting, yet no similar charge was posted by you.

You obviously like posting conflicting statements and bend the interpretation to make someone or a group appear guilty of something not true.

You need to go before a group of concerned people with your intelligence and see what that gets you. Here at least, you can find some worthless support.

I already linked the LDS-church owned Deseret News article that reads, "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has agreed to pay $250 million..." I did not make the claim that you accuse me of only "intimating," that the LDS church openly supported pederasty. They're paying acknowledges complicity in the pederasty through their sponsorship. The Methodist Church (UMC) has not yet agreed to pay, but there is a lot of evidence they've been subverted by sexual immorality and I won't be surprised if they also acknowledge complicity.

I went through the Cub Scouts, Boy Scouts, and Explorer Scouts. I worked at a Boy Scout Camp as an instructor between a couple of years of High School. I never saw anything resembling abuse but we all knew to steer clear of a certain guy's father at Boy Scout Camp. He was creepy enough that most of us were spooked by him. He wasn't a perp as far as I knew. Just acted like a pedo. I think it is a Communist item on a list to make the Boy Scouts of America fail. They are teaching kids to be good men. Sad state of affairs. Are we waiting for the revolution to start? It is right in front of us by the looks of things. Some just don't want to admit it. Be well, RZ.

It was not just “isolated incidents”. When my kids were scout age, there was a local (east Idaho) scandal that came to light. Long story short, there was an abuser that molested boys at scout camp. Church leaders “counseled” the offender, and put him back in charge of kids. At least TWICE.

When one of the molested kids came forward, he was told to shut up and let the Church handle it. The kid didn’t after seeing that the Church kept putting the offender back in charge of kids, so the church harassed him to the point of chasing him out of town and then kicking him out of the church. Problem finally solved in their mind, I guess?

Does that sound like an isolated incident?

Needless to say, my kids did not participate in the Boy Scouts.

You pathetic wretch, read the title of your post. You said that Mormons sponsored pederasty!

I think that a lot of boys benefited from Scouting, particularly boys who were being raised in homes without a strong male role model, My Son was in scouting for several years, Cubs, Webelos, and Boy. He earned the BSA rank of Life Scout, but quit because he was seeing scouts being promoted in his troop despite not actually doing the work or holding the necessary troop leadership positions.

I think that the U.S. would be a better country if the majority of us made a sincere commitment to try and live our lives guided by the twelve principles of The Scout Law.

You can't go too far wrong by being Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Friendly, Courtious, Kind, Obedient, Cheerful, Thrifty, Brave, Clean, and Reverent.

Or so it seems to me.

There are more sexual predators than many people realize. Predators go where the hunting is best. All males that choose to seek a power position involving children should be carefully vetted and constantly scrutinized, priests, teachers, youth leaders etc. Every parent must be suspicious of any male that has opportunity to be alone w/ a child including relatives and friends/neighbors.

Trannies and overt perverts are not the threat. Your neighbor and BIL and others are covert and expert at covering their tracks. Many communities publish addresses of registered sex offenders and these should be monitored carefully even though they only represent 5% of the actual threats.

Women and children are most likely to be abused by a person that they thought loved them.

#stayvigilant


mike r

Yep. Most abusers are either immediate family members or other close relatives. The numbers of children that have been abused by some in the Catholic Church or some in the Boy Scouts (for examples) pales in comparison to the numbers of children that have been abused by immediate family members or other close relatives.

Only takes a few bad apples to spoil the barrel.

JFC. I never thought about that.

I heard about this and it is likely true. One must remember that the LDS Church was one of the largest sponsors of Boy Scouts back in the day. When the Scouts got sued, all the sponsors probably got sued as well. Even if LDS is totally innocent, $250 million is cheap to avoid the consequences of a lawsuit.

I was in Scouts for 4 years. My three sons did six years up to Explorer etc. Nothing happened bad to any of us, not even a hint.
There was not problem at all until they started letting queers join and be leaders.

You can't go too far wrong by being Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Friendly, Courtious, Kind, Obedient, Cheerful, Thrifty, Brave, Clean, and Reverent."

That's right! I took all that Boy Scout stuff seriously. "Be Prepared" the Boy Scout motto. I always try to be prepared. Also I can still tie a bowline knot, comes in handy.

This is very true. I'm always suspicious of those that want to work with kids. When my bishop called me in and made me scout leader I told him no that I didn't want to do it. I said I'm sure there are many others here at church that want the job so give it to them. He then told me he tried to avoid putting adults in scouts that wanted to be in it. He then insisted I take the job.

I told him I didn't like working with kids and that most of them were mouthy and rude femi little mama's boys that would just piss me off. A lot of the kids in the groups parents were college professor types and none of the kids had any outdoor interests or skills. The Bishop then told me he really needed me to do it because the kids needed a more traditional male role model and it needed to be someone that wasn't going to put up with them and their parents crying about every little thing.

I decided to give it a try and I found a couple other traditional guys at church that didn't want to do it either and we formed a new troop. I got in trouble with the parents right off the bat because the kids wanted to call their new troop the my little ponies or the rainbow brights, no kidding! I was supposed to let them pick their troop name but I said hell no they might as well call themselves the little pink pansies. That got back to the parents and I was in trouble week one. One mother said she thought it was great the kids thought of sweet names because she said they were such sweet kids. I tried not to vomit and then said if they want to be sweet they can call themselves the honey badgers but I wasn't allowing anything sweeter than that. Honey badgers it was and it was kind of funny because it was around the time the video of the gay sounding guy talking about how bad ass honey badgers were was going around.

I ended up being a scout leader for around 2 years and I hated it at first but learned to tolerate it. It was overwhelming feeling responsible for keeping them safe and always having to lay down the laws.

In the end some off the kids really caught on to out doors stuff and quit acting like such little whimps. I think they just grow up a lot during those years. I ran into one of the old honey badgers a few months ago and he's all grown up and seemed like a decent kid that had his head on straight. He thanked me for putting up with him in scouts and told me he loves the outdoors, owned guns and was learning to hunt. He said his dad had actually taken up trap shooting too and his dad was a big city Californian that moved here when his wife got a job at the university.

Scouting had a lot to offer and could be a really good thing for kids but like so many things with potential for good these days evil infiltrated it any way it could and destroyed it.

Bb

I was in Cub Scouts and a short time in Webelos. We learned hunting, fishing, camping, knot tying, trapping, canoeing, bridge building, fire-starting, swimming, cooking, tug-of-war, shooting, archery, and rope swinging into a lake. It was a fabulous time in my life. Incidentally, we weren't associated with any men. Our troop had a Den-MOTHER that was a widow and the mother of one of our troop members.

After becoming the father of 3 daughters, each of them went through the female correlative of Cub Scouts; an organization called Indian Princess.

Most of this stuff is just another attack on an institution the Left hates. I'm sure there have been perverts that got involved to molest kids, but the same can be said for any organization that had mostly kids in it. If this had been called the "Marxist Youth Club" they wouldn't have said a word, even if they knew it was totally true.