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BC? 30 cal. 150 grain bp .365. , 180 grain bp .412
BC? 270 cal. 130 grain .372. Mb
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Now we have the definitive measure of a bullet's worth!
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BC? 30 cal. 150 grain bp .365. , 180 grain bp .412
BC? 270 cal. 130 grain .372. Mb Those don’t fit the queermoore.
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Jwall remingtons own numbers 2006 catalog. Mb
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bet the "Lead is bad" Cali regulator types could find something to complain about ..
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The weird thing is I never saw a box for sale anywhere around here. Pointed core-lokt's, round nose core-lokts, power lokt hollow points, silvertips and power points all over but never a box of bronze points.
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Many moons back used factory 150s in my old Browning shootamatic. Shot several deer with fairly spectacular results. I remember a couple of drops on the spot and a good 8 pt throwing water 6 feet in the air chasing a doe thru a bog. Till I shot him. Only stumbled another 30 ft or so. Died with womerns on his mind.
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They sure worked well in my old Ruger .270. I walloped a lot of deer with them when Midway sold the component bullets. That rifle would dent the nose of softpoints sliding around back and forth in the magazine, so I thought that bullet would solve the problem. It did,and it flat-out knocked the deer down like they were electrocuted. I was sad when I couldn't get any more of them. For some reason, NBTs haven't shown me the same effect.
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Hey Rat
I'm glad they worked for you AND I wish I had shot at least a few deer with mine in 270. The only reason I didn't was that I never recovered one that was not erratic. OH WELL, too late now for sure.
I had bought 2 of so boxes from Midway as well --- way back there.
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Jerry, I shot one deer with a .30/06/180 Bronze Point, and it wasn't much different, it shellacked that deer like it had swallowed a Claymore mine. Then I ran out of those bullets, too. I was not happy with Remington at that time (I still haven't forgiven them for discontinuing those bullets). Oh well, life goes on, and there are plenty of other bullets to use. Whitetail deer just aren't that hard to kill.
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I agree about 'hard to kill' at the same time I have had 'some' P P performance ON DEER from bullets that 1. killed the deer but 2. did NOT perform as advertised or supposed to.
IMO, just because you kill a deer and recover it does NOT mean the bullet did NOT fail.
Good Luck this seasons.
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It seems that all the crappy performance I ever had on deer were with boattail bullets. Hornady's 140gr. BTSP was especially bad, along with Sierra's Gamekings. I know, after I switched over to flat-based bullets, my problems all went away. I've had good performance with some boattails, but then bullets out of the same danged box would explode and crater on the deer. Some folks swear by those 140 Hornadys (.277"), but I'll never use them again. Gamekings are hit or miss, sometimes they'll do the deed just right, and sometimes they don't.
For whatever reason, I've never been able to get Speers to shoot worth a hoot.
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If they’d bring ‘em out in a bonded version, how cool would that be? Boomers would line up to buy them…..
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Some folks swear by those 140 Hornadys (.277"), but I'll never use them again.
For whatever reason, I've never been able to get Speers to shoot worth a hoot.
NOT to derail or misdirect this thread, just answering ratsmacker: I used the 140 BTSPs in Miss in the 80s and they worked fine FOR ME. I had a small PRETTY 8 pt mounted that I kilt using them. Per speers, I got good accuracy with 270 W and 130 S BT but were EXplosive!! The 180 30 cal S Hot Cors separated every time on WT from 180 yds------389 yds for me. ONLY fragments exited. So, round and round we go. ?Maybe? I had bad lots. I don't use them. Jerry
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This is great info, thanks for all that replied. I have a box of 150 grain .30 Bronze Points that were my Dad’s and I wasn’t sure what to do with them - now I know!
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I have a thousand NIB 270 130 500 NIB 30 Cal, not sure the weight, and about 500 laying around of different weights. I have killed elk with these with no problem, I would use again if needed. Just need to drag em out, and get em sold one day..
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It seems that all the crappy performance I ever had on deer were with boattail bullets. Hornady's 140gr. BTSP was especially bad, along with Sierra's Gamekings. I know, after I switched over to flat-based bullets, my problems all went away. I've had good performance with some boattails, but then bullets out of the same danged box would explode and crater on the deer. Some folks swear by those 140 Hornadys (.277"), but I'll never use them again. Gamekings are hit or miss, sometimes they'll do the deed just right, and sometimes they don't.
For whatever reason, I've never been able to get Speers to shoot worth a hoot. Funny enough, the two bullets that I have had the worst luck with were both Speers. One was the 6.5mm 140gn that would not shoot in a vary accurate Mauser M12 6.5x55 that shoots every other bullet very well. The other was the 7mm 145gn Grandslam that shot three inch plus groups in a very accurate 7x64. I tried the Grandslam in another 7mm rifle, my Number 1 7x57, and same result. That rifle is a 1.5 inch rifle but no luck with the Grandslams. But the only bullet that ever put three into the one hole was the Speer .30 cal 165gn BT from my .30-06 at 100m. That was a undoubtedly a fluke as I never did it again but that bullet did shoot just under the inch. Despite the bad luck with the 6.5mm 140gn, the Speer 6.5mm 120gn shoots brilliantly, as well as the 120gn Sierra, Ballistic Tip and 129 gn Hornady. Speer have given me the most inconsistent results from all the bullet manufacturers, whereas Noslers, Hornadys, Sierras etc have all shot well enough to be acceptable for hunting. Maybe some of Speer's machinery is getting old or something?
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My step father killed a lot of elk with .270 win. Rem. factory 130 gr. bronze points back in the day. Don't see why it wouldn't work on white tails, keep the velocity up and put it where it needs to go.
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