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Aug. 26, 2021 -- Myocarditis, or inflammation of the heart muscle, appears to be more common after a COVID-19 infection than after vaccination, according to a new study published Wednesday in The New England Journal of Medicine. Because if you die less than fourteen days after the second shot, they classify your death as a COVID-19 death, not a COVID-19 Shot death. Truth
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While there are issues, that stat is VERY misleading, since almost all the old, fat, high risk people are vaccinated.
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Nothing on the FDA website of course but I have no doubt it's happening because one of the vaccines causes your red blood cells to clump together. Don't remember which one but I posted a video by Dr. Ryan Cole while back about it. Well, there isn't anything on the FDA website and no FDA official announcement even resembling the OP most likely because it is just more fake hysteria.
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While there are issues, that stat is VERY misleading, since almost all the old, fat, high risk people are vaccinated. Not really. The myocarditis is more prevalent in younger vaccine recipients than the older ones.
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Are 'heart attack candidates' more likely to get the vaccine???
I did not watch it.
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My 41 yr old niece, a high-level trauma nurse, died from a heart attack a few weeks after getting the Covid vaccination. SOB. Sorry to hear of this. Unreal. May she RIP.
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Are 'heart attack candidates' more likely to get the vaccine???
I did not watch it. Yes. You become a HA candidate after sucking up the jab.
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While there are issues, that stat is VERY misleading, since almost all the old, fat, high risk people are vaccinated. Not really. The myocarditis is more prevalent in younger vaccine recipients than the older ones. The stat isn't about inflammation
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The purpose of the vaccine is to kill and injure as many people as possible...........
Think of that scene in Mars Attacks where the Martians are everywhere randomly killing humans.......
LOL, that's right, the vaccine is just like a Martian movie. And if the purpose of it is to kill and injure as many people as possible, then it's not very effective, is it.
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Post hoc ergo propter hoc. Is that drug dealer talk? Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc. Description: The argument offers an explanation, based on a temporal ordering of the events, that confuses co-occurrence with causality: A happened just before B, so A caused B. Comments: The Latin phrase "post hoc ergo propter hoc" means "after this, therefore because of this."
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Interesting read on the vaccines and blood clots. There's something about the spike protein in both the vaccine or with a Covid-19 infection that can cause blood clots in some people, they still don't quite understand what is going on. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02291-2Then there’s the spike protein itself. One team of researchers wondered whether the antibodies that bind to PF4 in people with VITT are an unintended by-product of the body’s immune response to spike. But they found that the PF4 antibodies can’t bind to it, suggesting that they are not part of the immune response to the viral protein9.
But cancer researcher Rolf Marschalek at Goethe University Frankfurt in Germany and his colleagues have shown that the snippets of RNA that encode spike can be cut apart and stitched back together in different ways in human cells; some of these forms, called splice variants, can generate spike proteins that get into the blood and then bind to the surface of cells that line blood vessels10. There, they cause an inflammatory response that is also seen in some SARS-CoV-2 infections, which in severely affected people can lead to the formation of clots.
And the lower rate of clots in J&J’s vaccine compared with Oxford–AstraZeneca’s could be because the version of spike generated by the J&J vaccine was engineered to remove the sites that allow the RNA to be processed into splice variants, says Marschalek. One possible factor affecting the safety of adenoviral vaccines is how they are administered. The COVID-19 vaccines are given as injections into muscle, but if the needle happens to puncture a vein, the vaccine could enter the bloodstream directly. Leo Nicolai, a cardiologist at Ludwig Maximilian University of Munich, Germany, and his colleagues found in a mouse study that platelets clump together with adenovirus and become activated when the Oxford–AstraZeneca vaccine is injected into blood vessels, but not when it is injected into muscle11.
It’s possible, says Nicolai, that on rare occasions, a vaccine is inadvertently injected into a vein — as was done in the earlier mouse studies that found that adenovirus could bind to platelets. If so, many cases of VITT might be avoided by asking vaccinators to first draw a small amount of fluid from the injection site with the syringe to check for blood before they actually push the plunger to administer the vaccine. This is already standard practice in some countries, and Denmark has added it to its official guidelines for COVID-19 vaccine administration.
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Interesting read on the vaccines and blood clots. There's something about the spike protein in both the vaccine or with a Covid-19 infection that can cause blood clots in some people, they still don't quite understand what is going on. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02291-2Then there’s the spike protein itself. One team of researchers wondered whether the antibodies that bind to PF4 in people with VITT are an unintended by-product of the body’s immune response to spike. But they found that the PF4 antibodies can’t bind to it, suggesting that they are not part of the immune response to the viral protein9.
But cancer researcher Rolf Marschalek at Goethe University Frankfurt in Germany and his colleagues have shown that the snippets of RNA that encode spike can be cut apart and stitched back together in different ways in human cells; some of these forms, called splice variants, can generate spike proteins that get into the blood and then bind to the surface of cells that line blood vessels10. There, they cause an inflammatory response that is also seen in some SARS-CoV-2 infections, which in severely affected people can lead to the formation of clots.
And the lower rate of clots in J&J’s vaccine compared with Oxford–AstraZeneca’s could be because the version of spike generated by the J&J vaccine was engineered to remove the sites that allow the RNA to be processed into splice variants, says Marschalek. One possible factor affecting the safety of adenoviral vaccines is how they are administered. The COVID-19 vaccines are given as injections into muscle, but if the needle happens to puncture a vein, the vaccine could enter the bloodstream directly. Leo Nicolai, a cardiologist at Ludwig Maximilian University of Munich, Germany, and his colleagues found in a mouse study that platelets clump together with adenovirus and become activated when the Oxford–AstraZeneca vaccine is injected into blood vessels, but not when it is injected into muscle11.
It’s possible, says Nicolai, that on rare occasions, a vaccine is inadvertently injected into a vein — as was done in the earlier mouse studies that found that adenovirus could bind to platelets. If so, many cases of VITT might be avoided by asking vaccinators to first draw a small amount of fluid from the injection site with the syringe to check for blood before they actually push the plunger to administer the vaccine. This is already standard practice in some countries, and Denmark has added it to its official guidelines for COVID-19 vaccine administration. Well, since we have zero studies or data on how the mRNA stuff interacts with the DOAC meds we make everyone who gets stents take......
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The purpose of the vaccine is to kill and injure as many people as possible...........
Think of that scene in Mars Attacks where the Martians are everywhere randomly killing humans.......
LOL, that's right, the vaccine is just like a Martian movie. And if the purpose of it is to kill and injure as many people as possible, then it's not very effective, is it. If everyone died right away, no amount of gaslighting by the MSM, the Government, and the medical establishment, would prevent the majority of people from abstaining from it.
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You know, there are some serious and legitimate concerns about the vaccine. The Navy surgeon makes a good case against the vaccination of the military because according to her data, the risks from covid are less than the risks from the vaccine.
And this is because there were very few deaths from covid in the miliatry (20), so the risk is very low. It's a straight-up risk-return analysis based not on high risk from the vaccine, but low risk from covid.
Likewise, there are always serious concerns about the federal government and overreach. Especially with democrats at the helm, and in particular, the current administration.
But to say that the US government has sponsored and implemented a vaccination program designed to kill and injure as many people as possible is idiotic. And it just lends credence to the left's contention that anti-vaxxers are kooks. I've seen mention of the KOTY award on here many times, but I think it's time to break out the KOTC award.
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Aug. 26, 2021 -- Myocarditis, or inflammation of the heart muscle, appears to be more common after a COVID-19 infection than after vaccination, according to a new study published Wednesday in The New England Journal of Medicine. Because if you die less than fourteen days after the second shot, they classify your death as a COVID-19 death, not a COVID-19 Shot death. Truth Yes. Remember THIS
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I affiliate and know hundreds who've had the jab and all are fine.
I also know no one who's died from covid, and despite hundreds I know who've had it only 2 have gone to hospital for a night or two.
Since everything is BS now, I just go with what I see and witness.
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I affiliate and know hundreds who've had the jab and all are fine.
I also know no one who's died from covid, and despite hundreds I know who've had it only 2 have gone to hospital for a night or two.
Since everything is BS now, I just go with what I see and witness. The problem with that is what you see depends on where you see it. A lot of these doctors pushing the fear are only seeing the really sick patients. Heck, for the first few months, almost everyone we intubated died because the ARDS protocols sucked with the inflammation. But we were not seeing the 85+% of the patients that didn't even get admitted, and that's it of a very high risk population of old Vietnam vets with multiple co-morbidities
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To be fair...the people most inclined to get vaccinated are also those.most inclined to have heart attacks.
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Interesting read on the vaccines and blood clots. There's something about the spike protein in both the vaccine or with a Covid-19 infection that can cause blood clots in some people, they still don't quite understand what is going on. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02291-2Then there’s the spike protein itself. One team of researchers wondered whether the antibodies that bind to PF4 in people with VITT are an unintended by-product of the body’s immune response to spike. But they found that the PF4 antibodies can’t bind to it, suggesting that they are not part of the immune response to the viral protein9.
But cancer researcher Rolf Marschalek at Goethe University Frankfurt in Germany and his colleagues have shown that the snippets of RNA that encode spike can be cut apart and stitched back together in different ways in human cells; some of these forms, called splice variants, can generate spike proteins that get into the blood and then bind to the surface of cells that line blood vessels10. There, they cause an inflammatory response that is also seen in some SARS-CoV-2 infections, which in severely affected people can lead to the formation of clots.
And the lower rate of clots in J&J’s vaccine compared with Oxford–AstraZeneca’s could be because the version of spike generated by the J&J vaccine was engineered to remove the sites that allow the RNA to be processed into splice variants, says Marschalek. One possible factor affecting the safety of adenoviral vaccines is how they are administered. The COVID-19 vaccines are given as injections into muscle, but if the needle happens to puncture a vein, the vaccine could enter the bloodstream directly. Leo Nicolai, a cardiologist at Ludwig Maximilian University of Munich, Germany, and his colleagues found in a mouse study that platelets clump together with adenovirus and become activated when the Oxford–AstraZeneca vaccine is injected into blood vessels, but not when it is injected into muscle11.
It’s possible, says Nicolai, that on rare occasions, a vaccine is inadvertently injected into a vein — as was done in the earlier mouse studies that found that adenovirus could bind to platelets. If so, many cases of VITT might be avoided by asking vaccinators to first draw a small amount of fluid from the injection site with the syringe to check for blood before they actually push the plunger to administer the vaccine. This is already standard practice in some countries, and Denmark has added it to its official guidelines for COVID-19 vaccine administration. I know someone who ended up with clots in the lungs after Rona, I guess it's not super uncommon. Another person locally died of clots in the lungs a few weeks after the vaccine, but also had undiagnosed leukimia so it's hard call on the cause.
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Yep. The lies, manipulations, politicization, lack of basic reasoning etc… from BOTH sides is pathetic.
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