Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Ever think child rapists deserve a chance at Salvation? If so, you're an idiot.

No it isn’t. You obviously have very strongly moral and ethical feelings about child molestation and child molesters. If you were a child molester would you want some form of mercy? Would you expect to be killed right away? Would you kill yourself?

I don’t think we can ever fully grasp what a gift true repentance really is in this life.

Anyone who thinks it’s just a matter of speaking words or reading a prayer is hopelessly ignorant and/or obtuse.

Boomer needs a puppy. Bad.

No it isn’t. You obviously have very strongly moral and ethical feelings about child molestation and child molesters. If you were a child molester would you want some form of mercy? Would you expect to be killed right away? Would you kill yourself?

So murdering millions of innocent people is a sin and the same as cheating on your wife?

A deeply troubled man.

Jesus saves sinners, ALL sinners, and that includes child molesters, rapists, and murderers (as despicable as they are to us). The good news is that no one is beyond the grace of God (Romans 3:24-26). There is NO man which sinneth not (1 Chronicles 6:36).

We are all sinners saved by grace alone and not of ourselves. All of us are depraved and sinful. Even after accepting Jesus as our Lord, we are still sinful and depraved and still sin through commission and omission. There is none righteous, no not one (Romans 3:10-12).

We can only be saved by God’s grace and mercy through His free gift of Jesus. Then we trust in God’s forgiveness, His righteously, and eternal life through Jesus. When we accept truly accept Jesus in our hearts, we are forgiven of our sins.

For He has rescued us from the one who rules in the kingdom of darkness, and He has brought us into the kingdom of His son, Jesus. God has purchased our freedom with His blood and has forgiven all our sins (Colossians 1:13-14).

In Him we have redemption through His blood, forgiveness of sins, according to His riches in glory (Ephesians 1:7).

Jesus came to save sinners, and the minute we stop being a sinner, we will cease to need His grace. We will always be sinners in this life, but we are saved by the mercy and grace of Jesus.

When we were dead in our sins and in the uncircumcision of our sinful nature, God made us alive in Christ. He forgave all our sins, took them away, and nailed them to the cross (Colossians 2:13-15). Scripture didn’t say some sins. Scripture says ALL sins.

I thank God for knowing in advance I can never be good enough or perfect enough in this life, and I thank Him for saving me from my sins. Our human 3-d brains can’t begin to fathom saving a child molester, murderer, abortionist, or rapist anymore than we can fathom sacrificing our only son for the sins of the entire human race.

We certainly don’t. I used to think that I did. Then I understood that following the Law wasn’t a means to being a better person, Christian Or gaining a higher righteousness. The law condemns us.

The origin of this thread seems steeped in a personal form of the law as a way of being more moral or righteous than Christians and God himself.

Sad thing, as I see it, whether Christianity or a self made religion, using the Law or a law does nothing other than dehumanize our neighbors and make them primarily objects that we use to become more holy, righteous, morally superior, etc.

I have posted sermons, on this forum, by various preachers who provided the clearest answers from the Bible that I have ever heard on the subject.

The first one got more hate and trolling than any Bible.thumping thread since I joined. I hit a nerve with those who didn't like me posting anything against the John Wayne Gay-zees.

For anyone who wishes to learn what God's Word says about the subject, I will post a two part study and more to follow if there is interest.

I find that the first message to listen to is one, or both, of the brief ones in the signature links at the bottom.
This will make the full Part 1&2 sermons make sense.

Part 1
https://bannedpreaching.com/videos/Verity/Psychopath_Reprobates_Part1.mp4

Part 2
https://bannedpreaching.com/videos/Verity/Psychopath_Reprobates_Part2.mp4

It’s surprising to me how many people here have such a limited understanding of basic Christian doctrine. God’s teaching is clear that all men can be forgiven and saved. That doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t seek out punishment on earth. We absolutely should and the Bible teaches that as well. However anyone that turns from their wicked ways repents with true sincerity and turns to God and his commandments will be saved. That doesn’t mean that they won’t suffer the consequences of their actions such as life in prison here on earth.

As was asked above is person that commits adult rape capable of salvation? How about first degree murder? How about manslaughter?Which of us mortals can be so arrogant as to think that we get to draw the line or know what it is. What if one of the people above came from a horrible home life themself full of abuse Vs. someone that commits a crime but had a great childhood is there a sliding scale for that? God’s teaching are beyond clear and something that I thought more people understood. Only God knows a mans heart and rather or not he’s truly remorseful and sought forgiveness from God. If he has and follows Gods commandments he’s saved. If he isn’t or doesn’t than he’s not.

As was asked above is person that commits adult rape capable of salvation? How about first degree murder? How about manslaughter?Which of us mortals can be so arrogant as to think that we get to draw the line or know what it is. What if one of the people above came from a horrible home life themself full of abuse Vs. someone that commits a crime but had a great childhood is there a sliding scale for that? God’s teaching are beyond clear and something that I thought more people understood. Only God knows a mans heart and rather or not he’s truly remorseful and sought forgiveness from God. If he has and follows Gods commandments he’s saved. If he isn’t or doesn’t than he’s not.

I do think we crave grace most when our guilt is exposed, but we’re hesitant to extend it when we’re confronted with the guilt of others. When we’re on the receiving end of it, grace is fortifying. But when it’s required of us, it’s often troublesome.

Jesus saves sinners, ALL sinners, and that includes child molesters, rapists, and murderers (as despicable as they are to us). The good news is that no one is beyond the grace of God (Romans 3:24-26). There is NO man which sinneth not (1 Chronicles 6:36).

We are all sinners saved by grace alone and not of ourselves. All of us are depraved and sinful. Even after accepting Jesus as our Lord, we are still sinful and depraved and still sin through commission and omission. There is none righteous, no not one (Romans 3:10-12).

We can only be saved by God’s grace and mercy through His free gift of Jesus. Then we trust in God’s forgiveness, His righteously, and eternal life through Jesus. When we accept truly accept Jesus in our hearts, we are forgiven of our sins.

For He has rescued us from the one who rules in the kingdom of darkness, and He has brought us into the kingdom of His son, Jesus. God has purchased our freedom with His blood and has forgiven all our sins (Colossians 1:13-14).

In Him we have redemption through His blood, forgiveness of sins, according to His riches in glory (Ephesians 1:7).

Jesus came to save sinners, and the minute we stop being a sinner, we will cease to need His grace. We will always be sinners in this life, but we are saved by the mercy and grace of Jesus.

When we were dead in our sins and in the uncircumcision of our sinful nature, God made us alive in Christ. He forgave all our sins, took them away, and nailed them to the cross (Colossians 2:13-15). Scripture didn’t say some sins. Scripture says ALL sins.

I thank God for knowing in advance I can never be good enough or perfect enough in this life, and I thank Him for saving me from my sins. Our human 3-d brains can’t begin to fathom saving a child molester, murderer, abortionist, or rapist anymore than we can fathom sacrificing our only son for the sins of the entire human race.

If you, or your religion, teaches that God would consider forgiveness to child rapists, then yes absolutely I am saying you are an idiot and your your religion stupid. It's really that simple.