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You cannot talk sense to a liberal. Their arguments are emotionally driven. They will prefer ignorance and superstition over science and technology all the while calling it science. The only way to deal with a liberal is to defeat them everywhere you find them.
We need to rid ourselves of all democrats and most republicans. The only thing the republican establishment cares about is controlling the money. We have huge problems with welfare, social security, medicare and medicaid spending as well as many government programs created decades ago. Congress will never address them because they're afraid to. That's why they created so many government agencies that have no oversight. They allow them to rule and regulate us to death while congress sits back and creates more government jobs to fill with their cronies.

We need a 1776 moment.


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The thing about liberals is how truly disingenuous they are. I noticed not one of them can post a single positive thing Jo and the Ho have done since taking office.

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Originally Posted by flagstaff

* National debt: $19,271,000,000,000 


The national debt is currently $28.8 trillion, not 19.




Originally Posted by ironbender

At what point does it make practical and economic sense to burn down the shît-filled house and start over?


Liberals call that "the great reset".



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One big difference is that under Trump the economy was improving-unemployment was down-gas prices were a lot lower and misc other things. The border was under control and China was taking lessons. Edk


And even Trump added 6 trillion to the deficit...as much as Obama in 8 years, if memory serves.


You lying POS never quit do you?


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Originally Posted by HoosierHawk
Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and Obamacare alone are estimated to be $2.3 trillion in 2021.

Federal revenue for 2021 is estimated to be about $2.2 trillion, as stated in the first post.

There are 46 million retirees collecting SS and Medicare benefits. There are 330 million people in the USA. Every year, the percentage of retirees as part of the overall population increases.

See the problem?

Too many takers, not enough revenue generators. FDR and the Dems set the country on the road to financial collapse in 1934. It wasn't happening fast enough, so LBJ and the Democrats floored the gas pedal in 1965.

We're about to hit the wall.


Hey there bitch, want to add the cost of welfare in that mix, or what we spend to babysit foreigners? By the way those "retirees paid into the same system for many years and the leftards spent it on odd things such as wars.


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Originally Posted by rainshot
You cannot talk sense to a liberal. Their arguments are emotionally driven. They will prefer ignorance and superstition over science and technology all the while calling it science. The only way to deal with a liberal is to defeat them everywhere you find them.
We need to rid ourselves of all democrats and most republicans. The only thing the republican establishment cares about is controlling the money. We have huge problems with welfare, social security, medicare and medicaid spending as well as many government programs created decades ago. Congress will never address them because they're afraid to. That's why they created so many government agencies that have no oversight. They allow them to rule and regulate us to death while congress sits back and creates more government jobs to fill with their cronies.

We need a 1776 moment.


We need that moment for sure.


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That was because of the last administration!

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Originally Posted by flagstaff
Got this forwarded to me but it might help explain things:

 Lesson # 1:
* U.S. Tax revenue: $2,170,000,000,000 
* Fed budget: $3,820,000,000,000 
* New debt: $ 1,650,000,000,000 
* National debt: $19,271,000,000,000 
* Recent budget cuts: $ 38,500,000,000
 
Let's now remove 8 zeros and pretend it's a household budget:
* Annual family income: $21,700 
* Money the family spent: $38,200 
* New debt on the credit card: $16,500 
* Outstanding balance on the credit card: $192,710 
* Total budget cuts so far: $385
Got It ???

This is a real literal description, in case there is still someone that doesn’t get it.

OK, now Lesson # 2: 
 
Here's another way to look at the Debt Ceiling:
Let's say, You come home from work and find there has been a sewer backup in your neighborhood....and your home has sewage all the way up to your ceilings.
 
What do you think you should do ...
Raise the ceilings, or pump out the crap?

Your choice is coming in November 2022. They all need to go……..let’s pump out the crap that’s ruining our house


It's a little more complicated than that. All your
relatives from the East/ West Coast, Illinois and Minnesota are living with you.


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Liberals love to live in schit.

Liberals are miserable, their lives and families are a mess, they just want everybody else as miserable as they are.


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Originally Posted by 12344mag
Liberals love to live in schit.

Liberals are miserable, their lives and families are a mess, they just want everybody else as miserable as they are.

I like this analogy.

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Originally Posted by 12344mag
Liberals love to live in schit.

Liberals are miserable, their lives and families are a mess, they just want everybody else as miserable as they are.


Well, there is that.


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Originally Posted by Utroglodytes
That was because of the last administration!


No, low gasoline prices, closed borders, lower fentanyl ODs, oil independance, low unemployment, no American deaths in Afghanistan in 18 mo, etc was because of the last administration.


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Originally Posted by Tarquin
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One big difference is that under Trump the economy was improving-unemployment was down-gas prices were a lot lower and misc other things. The border was under control and China was taking lessons. Edk


And even Trump added 6 trillion to the deficit...as much as Obama in 8 years, if memory serves.
........................Unfair statement.....TAKE AWAY the expense of covid and Trump's deficit would have been nowhere near $6 trillion. If memory serves? You forgot a slight detail.


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Originally Posted by JimFromTN
I believe the liberals are fully aware of this. I think the confusion about the debt ceiling is on the part of "Conservatives" in that they don't realize the raising of the debt ceiling is to pay for existing debt, ie $3 trillion tax cuts, not future expenditures.
.......................Jim the DUMMY from Tenn.......You are just plain STUPID!


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Originally Posted by Utroglodytes
That was because of the last administration!





Is this yet another demoRAT troll sock?

Lol.


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Liberals love to live in schit.

Liberals are miserable, their lives and families are a mess, they just want everybody else as miserable as they are.


Well, there is that.





Schit dwellers.

Lol.


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Originally Posted by Tarquin
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One big difference is that under Trump the economy was improving-unemployment was down-gas prices were a lot lower and misc other things. The border was under control and China was taking lessons. Edk


And even Trump added 6 trillion to the deficit...as much as Obama in 8 years, if memory serves.


Obama averaged 1.16 trillion a year.


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You guys always have to have scapegoats for your perceived problems. I do believe GW started two wars. One went on for 20 years and the other something less than that.
There is more than enough blame to go around for Republican`s and Democrat`s. Your memories are very short and very selective.

One thing I have noticed about threads like this. You all eat the s h it that spews forth from you sewer holes and you believe your own lies.....

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From A Fire Friend.

So if I wanted to throw something out, I'd say "Lets talk about Bidens miserable polling numbers".

We always debate who was the "worst" the President in our lifetime. There are a few that battle for that title. LBJ expanded socialism with the Great Society, and escalated Vietnam that was the trigger for a whole host of problems for us that include a heroin epidemic, a crashed economy, and the inflation miseries that followed in the 1970s.

Carter had the anti-Midas touch. Everything he touched turned to crap. Foreign policy was his only domain to play since the Democrats had big majorities in both House and Senate, they passed whatever they wanted and told him to sign it. Carter let them strip the military, NATO, threw Rhodesia under the bus when in fact they were nothing but another surrogate Cold War battle. South Africa was targeted for destruction. Panama Canal. SALT II etc. etc.

Clinton was stopped from allowing Ted Kennedy and his Party from doing more damage by Newt and the GOP finally retaking the House after 60 years of Democrat control (60!!). Tech boom helped him with a great economy.

GWB - he never had a chance to be good or bad. 9/11 happened his first year, and that was a "damned if do, damned if you don't" situation.

Obama - face it, we hate him. What if I told Obamacare wasn't him? Dems have had universal healthcare sitting in a filing cabinet waiting for them to take power and to whip it out and pass it. Obama DID attack American exceptionalism.

Reagan - "America is the greatest country ever created. It is the home of personal liberty and opportunity"

Obama - "America is a racist country built on the backs of poor immigrants and slaves, the rich exploiting the poor. American is not exceptional and Western Civilization is to be condemned and vilified.

Obama is sort of the political equivalent of Round Up. Spray it today, but you don't see the effects until a little later, and as time goes by, we realize how bad that application was and how it is terminal.

All these guys were bad for American, but were they inept? To a certain point, they were. LBJ thought he could get anything done with muscle or threats. It worked at home, but not abroad. Carter was the Presidential SJW, eaten up with White Guilt and was determined to spread Civil Rights to the World instantly. It mattered not that it took the US 100 years to come to grips with our Civil Rights issues, he wanted the rest of the world to change instantly.

Obama was not prepared for office. Harry Reid told him to sit back and sign whatever he sent to his desk. What Obama was is a "Community Organizer". That means he was a radical and his training was creating chaos and destroying social order to affect change and his goals.

Forget the birth certificate stuff. No matter if Obama was born in Kenya or Hawaii, he had zero in common with baseball, hot dogs, apple pie and Chevrolet. In 1961, Hawaii was only 3 years into statehood. It was an exotic place full of Polynesians (naturally) and Asians. Obama's radical parents showed him how the poor Polynesians were exploited by the White Man. He lived in Indonesia as a kid. Indonesia is about as far from Mid America and mid America values as you can get. Obama saw himself as a citizen of the world, not as an American.

Now Biden. Oh brother! On paper, Biden should be a political genius. He has been in Washington since the 1970s. He knows everybody, he knows how everything works. He was VP for 8 years. As it turns out, he really is an idiot, and the whole world sees it. Europe might have hated Reagan and Trump, but they begrudgingly admired what they got done. Europe had the Obamagasm when he got elected, but they saw him as weak once he got into office. Putin laughed at his femininity.

Biden is clearly the most inept President in my lifetime. Really, he is the one that has no business making decisions. Probably because he is non compos mentis, literally. Jill Biden keeps him going, Susan Rice makes most the decisions, and he is carefully protected from the media and by the media. His shortcomings cannot be hidden much longer, people are catching on. Read this for bad news for Biden:

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021...-has-to-be-setting-off-alarms-at-the-wh/


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Humm, seems the low lifes have taken down the stats on Bidens falling poll numbers.

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021...-has-to-be-setting-off-alarms-at-the-wh/


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