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Don't you have a buddy on one? Remember you posting he gave you a very nice rifle.

It was a mistake, but not the major blunder some think it is. When you're doing a very dangerous job, sh*t sometimes happens. We didn't intentionally ram it, but these things happen. OTOH, the Chinese probably had to send their shorts to the laundry. One minute, they think they're all alone, and the next, they get hit. Now that I think some more about it, maybe the love tap was intentional. It'll really mess with all the Chinese crews heads if they know they're up against an opponent that they could be in the sights of, and not even know it. Head games is where it's at. Also, that the USN isn't afraid to play rough.

Someone needs to tell the submariners, I guess.

He is shore side right now, thankfully.

1) Again. *commonsense* says pinging them at close range would mess with their head. Sneaking up behind somebody does not require a shove to scare the [bleep] out of them Just a shout at close range will do it. And, golly, in that scenario the sub would still be *battle ready*(you know the actual purpose of a submarine) instead of going to port for repairs, while announcing to the world we were doing.
2) I'd say a major blunder is letting the enemy know you were right next to them yet could not figure out enough info to prevent us from ramming them. Really, what the hell good is that. They now KNOW we can't hear them. They now KNOW their subs are pretty good. They gained intel from the blunder.


The more you think about it, the more you realize this was a dumb move. We have to get past the useless idea our military can do no wrong.

There's a lot going on in the Pacific right now than meets the eye. China is threatening Taiwan, who we have traditionally protected. The Philippines are also yielding to China.
The Admiral of the 7th fleet stated he wasn't going to have an Afghanistan incident on his hands yesterday.

Oh, and president Pinocchio signed some kind of UN agreement to allow the Chinese into our country to "help us" in time of crisis.

There's a lot of moving pieces to the puzzle.

Good.

I bet the captain of the US boat was gay and wanted to defect to the Chinese.


Yep.

No. Now they know they can't hear us but we know exactly where they are. They know their subs aren't as good as they were told they were. How would you feel if you found out you'd have to fight someone you can't see but they can see you.

Yeah...strongly encouraged to take a little break so he didn't burn out his men!

Good excuse for mandatory vax and racial equality indoctrination training.

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WTF?

Got a link for that?

There are a whole bunch of morons posting on this thread that don't know a damn thing about the USN or naval warfare. They should just go play in traffic and let the USN take care of business on the high seas.

Navy Chief (Ret.)

Link???
Source????

Aint heard zilch about that UN agreement.

Ex-FUCKING-scuse me!

I know, that comms tape and that story, preceded every SUBSAFE Program and QA School the Navy ever sent me too. They always used to say "That SubSafe Certification Manual" was written in their blood...

"The Hunt for Pink October"

Huh? Like I said, this would have been more effectively accomplished by pinging them when we are on top of them. It makes no freaking sense to ram them just to let them know we can see them but they can't see us.

If we rammed them intentionally because we knew they were there. Then we are idiots. If we rammed them because we did not know they were there then they know we can't hear them.

If we ping them when next to them then they know we can hear them and they can't hear us. Goal accomplished.

I'm not a moron. I'm not going to play in traffic. I am certainly going to let the navy run the navy, obviously.

My only point is I can't in any scenario see how this was not a major blunder.