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35 Whelen & Hammer #16528438 10/14/21
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,940 Likes: 1 USA J jwp475 OP Campfire 'Bwana
OP jwp475 Campfire 'Bwana J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,940 Likes: 1 USA	I recently ordered 100 220 grain Hammer bullets for my 1885 Highwall in 35 Whelen https://hammerbullets.com/product/358-cal-220g-hammer-hunter/ I loaded a few with 64 grains of Power Pro Varmint and fired 3 over my chronograph 2921, 2901 and 2912. Then I shot 3 at 200 yards for 1/2 MOA. Load development complete I loaded 3 boxes and just waiting on deer season to open on the 23rd I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first

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Re: 35 Whelen & Hammer jwp475 #16528494 10/14/21
Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,312 Likes: 2 Northeast USA B beretzs Campfire Ranger
beretzs Campfire Ranger B Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,312 Likes: 2 Northeast USA	Semper Fi

Re: 35 Whelen & Hammer jwp475 #16528542 10/14/21
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,858 Likes: 3 Virginia V VaHunter Campfire Regular
VaHunter Campfire Regular V Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,858 Likes: 3 Virginia	Good Lord, over 2900 fps out of a 35 whelen with 220gr bullet. Make sure you are wearing glasses and I would also suggest leather gloves. Last edited by VaHunter; 10/14/21.

Re: 35 Whelen & Hammer VaHunter #16528567 10/14/21
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,940 Likes: 1 USA J jwp475 OP Campfire 'Bwana
OP jwp475 Campfire 'Bwana J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,940 Likes: 1 USA	Originally Posted by VaHunter Good Lord, over 2900 fps out of a 35 whelen with 220gr bullet. Make sure you are wearing glasses and I would also suggest leather gloves. Speer lists 63.8 grains of Power Pro Varmint with 220 grain bullets plus Highwalls have 28" barrels. I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first

Re: 35 Whelen & Hammer jwp475 #16528595 10/14/21
Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,312 Likes: 2 Northeast USA B beretzs Campfire Ranger
beretzs Campfire Ranger B Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,312 Likes: 2 Northeast USA	28” barrel is darned near good for 100FPS or more. isn’t any huge trick to get 2750-2800 with a 24” Whelen and a few powders. Semper Fi

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Re: 35 Whelen & Hammer jwp475 #16528896 10/14/21
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,858 Likes: 3 Virginia V VaHunter Campfire Regular
VaHunter Campfire Regular V Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,858 Likes: 3 Virginia	My Whelen which I had built has a 22" barrel and although I have not run it through a chronograph I would expect 2650 +- out of it with 225gr Accubonds, so I guess 6" more barrel could get you to 2900 fps safely. Man that is a hammer Last edited by VaHunter; 10/14/21.

Re: 35 Whelen & Hammer jwp475 #16528923 10/14/21
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WhelenAway Campfire Tracker W Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,625 Likes: 1	Great info. Thanks! FÜCK Jeff_O! MAGA

Re: 35 Whelen & Hammer jwp475 #16529244 10/15/21
Joined: Jan 2021 Posts: 1,961 T Theoldpinecricker Campfire Regular
Theoldpinecricker Campfire Regular T Joined: Jan 2021 Posts: 1,961	Makes me want an 35 Whelan. On a serious note I just purchased some Hornady 220 round nose for my 30-06 for use to 250yds and less. I doubt I can come close to 2900fps and more likely 2400fps. Big difference

Re: 35 Whelen & Hammer VaHunter #16529460 10/15/21
Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,312 Likes: 2 Northeast USA B beretzs Campfire Ranger
beretzs Campfire Ranger B Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,312 Likes: 2 Northeast USA	Originally Posted by VaHunter My Whelen which I had built has a 22" barrel and although I have not run it through a chronograph I would expect 2650 +- out of it with 225gr Accubonds, so I guess 6" more barrel could get you to 2900 fps safely. Man that is a hammer I use plain of H4895 from my 7600 35 Whelen that gets 2700 flat with the 225 Sierra and I don't consider that a hard load at all. With a powder like 15, PP Varmint, 4895, etc I'd bet you'll easily push up over the 2700 mark without setting anything on fire. John's 28" barrel is really something though, just flat impressive from that 1885 with the 10 twist. Semper Fi

Re: 35 Whelen & Hammer jwp475 #16529461 10/15/21
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,940 Likes: 1 USA J jwp475 OP Campfire 'Bwana
OP jwp475 Campfire 'Bwana J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,940 Likes: 1 USA	Speer lists 2826 FPS with 63.8 grains of Power Pro Varmint. Add 80 FPS extra for the 38" barrel and you are at 2906. I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first

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Re: 35 Whelen & Hammer jwp475 #16529753 10/15/21
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TRexF16 Campfire Regular Joined: Jun 2019 Posts: 2,518	In a 24" barrel, Sierra lists 2900 FPS for their 225 SGK over both 70.0gr CFE 223 and 71.6gr PP 2000-MR. PP 2000-MR has been amazing for me with 250 and 225 gr bullets, but too slow for 200gr. I've yet to try CFE 223 (and see little reason to based on what 2000-MR is doing for me). I have gotten great performance with Varmint at just under 3000 FPS with the 200 TTSX. It's a whole new world for the Whelen with these new powders - perfectly safe and very accurate loads that far exceed "traditional" Whelen velocities. Rex

Re: 35 Whelen & Hammer jwp475 #16529786 10/15/21
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,801 Missouri but my hearts in the ... T tankerjockey Campfire Regular
tankerjockey Campfire Regular T Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,801 Missouri but my hearts in the ...	Very versatile Hammer! Its not always easy to do the right thing, But it is always the right thing to do.

Re: 35 Whelen & Hammer TRexF16 #16529791 10/15/21
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,940 Likes: 1 USA J jwp475 OP Campfire 'Bwana
OP jwp475 Campfire 'Bwana J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,940 Likes: 1 USA	Originally Posted by TRexF16 In a 24" barrel, Sierra lists 2900 FPS for their 225 SGK over both 70.0gr CFE 223 and 71.6gr PP 2000-MR. PP 2000-MR has been amazing for me with 250 and 225 gr bullets, but too slow for 200gr. I've yet to try CFE 223 (and see little reason to based on what 2000-MR is doing for me). I have gotten great performance with Varmint at just under 3000 FPS with the 200 TTSX. It's a whole new world for the Whelen with these new powders - perfectly safe and very accurate loads that far exceed "traditional" Whelen velocities. Rex I went with CFE223 because I was unable to find 2000MR I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first

Re: 35 Whelen & Hammer TRexF16 #16529815 10/15/21
Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,312 Likes: 2 Northeast USA B beretzs Campfire Ranger
beretzs Campfire Ranger B Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,312 Likes: 2 Northeast USA	Originally Posted by TRexF16 In a 24" barrel, Sierra lists 2900 FPS for their 225 SGK over both 70.0gr CFE 223 and 71.6gr PP 2000-MR. PP 2000-MR has been amazing for me with 250 and 225 gr bullets, but too slow for 200gr. I've yet to try CFE 223 (and see little reason to based on what 2000-MR is doing for me). I have gotten great performance with Varmint at just under 3000 FPS with the 200 TTSX. It's a whole new world for the Whelen with these new powders - perfectly safe and very accurate loads that far exceed "traditional" Whelen velocities. Rex I am using PP2000 with the 220 Hammers for a bit 2830 in my 22" Ruger. Accurate as heck for me. Seems like a great powder. Semper Fi

Re: 35 Whelen & Hammer jwp475 #16530125 10/15/21
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 8,173 S.E. Alaska MuskegMan Campfire Outfitter
MuskegMan Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 8,173 S.E. Alaska	JWP - what's the twist on your highwall?

Re: 35 Whelen & Hammer MuskegMan #16530145 10/15/21
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,940 Likes: 1 USA J jwp475 OP Campfire 'Bwana
OP jwp475 Campfire 'Bwana J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,940 Likes: 1 USA	Originally Posted by MuskegMan JWP - what's the twist on your highwall? Mine started out as a 30/06 I sent it to Jess Rebore for his 5 groove in 10 twist. Very happy with the results I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first

Re: 35 Whelen & Hammer jwp475 #16530156 10/15/21
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,863 Likes: 4 M mathman Campfire 'Bwana
mathman Campfire 'Bwana M Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,863 Likes: 4	"Primitive firearm" season eh?

Re: 35 Whelen & Hammer jwp475 #16530161 10/15/21
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 10,966 Winchester, WY USA M memtb Campfire Outfitter
memtb Campfire Outfitter M Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 10,966 Winchester, WY USA	Great cartridge, a great bullet, great accuracy and velocity......”go forth and kill lots of stuff”! memtb You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong." -Bob Hagel “I’d like to be a good rifleman…..but, I prefer to be a good hunter”! memtb 2024

Re: 35 Whelen & Hammer mathman #16530164 10/15/21
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beretzs Campfire Ranger B Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,312 Likes: 2 Northeast USA	Originally Posted by mathman "Primitive firearm" season eh? That’s what I was razzin him about too! Semper Fi

Re: 35 Whelen & Hammer jwp475 #16530170 10/15/21
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 17,246 Northern Louisiana JPro Campfire Ranger
JPro Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 17,246 Northern Louisiana	That sounds like a heck of a Whelen load (and rifle). I've got to pop my Apex Whelen a time or two this weekend to get ready for Primitive. Now with even more aplomb

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