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Baldwin will walk if there was no malicious intent. If it was the crew’s job to provide him with a non-lethal prop and he did not introduce live ammo into the set there’s no crime. Can’t imagine even a civil suit being successful against him. He was going thru the normal course of action.
The production team ? Now that’s another story. Somebody spit in their chili big time there. That may be true if he was pointing it at a cast member during filming. There is absolutely no reason to point a gun at a crew member, let alone pull the trigger. He may not have been pointing it at a crew member. A real bullet goes a lot farther than a blank. These people could have been ten yards away minding their own business. Yep. Standing off-scene somewhere and then here comes a bullet. I don't like Alec's politics, but I wouldn't wish that on anybody. Somebody either really got sloppy or somebody did something really evil.
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so was it a real gun? Or a prop gun? Can a prop gun fire actual live ammo? Having a hard time believing that someone accidently loaded an actual gun with live ammo. instead of blanks.
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There really isn’t any way to “accidentally” introduce live ammo to a movie set.
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Baldwin will walk if there was no malicious intent. If it was the crew’s job to provide him with a non-lethal prop and he did not introduce live ammo into the set there’s no crime. Can’t imagine even a civil suit being successful against him. He was going thru the normal course of action.
The production team ? Now that’s another story. Somebody spit in their chili big time there. That may be true if he was pointing it at a cast member during filming. There is absolutely no reason to point a gun at a crew member, let alone pull the trigger. Yep. If so, that would be “malicious intent”. Hide & watch. It wasn’t Baldwin’s responsibility to “vet” the prop gun. And I agree about the possibility of stupid actions. I couldn’t bring myself to point any gun at another person without personally verifying it’s condition. Right now we don’t know under what conditions the prop was used or if it was discharged during active production. If there is a civil suit involving Baldwin I predict it will be Baldwin suing the production company.
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I’m guessing the camera director and film director were standing behind a camera to line it up and see what it looked like when Alec fired towards the camera. Someone slipped a live round into the pistol. Best guess.
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I’m guessing the camera director and film director were standing behind a camera to line it up and see what it looked like when Alec fired towards the camera. Someone slipped a live round into the pistol. Best guess. Another thing to consider too is that if the movie was striving for realism, they would have been looking at a cylinder full of lead nosed bullets too. A guy in Baldwin’s position could have even done a quick spin of the cylinder and missed the one with a live primer in it.
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that POS can burn in h e l l, he started alot of crap with a gun club I belong to about how they kept there animals, that and PETA
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Baldwin's father was a Marine and coach of the rifle team at Massapequa High on Long Island NY. He should have known enough to check what was in the gun before he ever cocked it. “In all my years, I’ve never been handed a hot gun,” the actor allegedly kept saying.
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Baldwin's father was a Marine and coach of the rifle team at Massapequa High on Long Island NY. He should have known enough to check what was in the gun before he ever cocked it. “In all my years, I’ve never been handed a hot gun,” the actor allegedly kept saying. Ya ever get to pheasant hunt with his dad?
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Baldwin's father was a Marine and coach of the rifle team at Massapequa High on Long Island NY. He should have known enough to check what was in the gun before he ever cocked it. “In all my years, I’ve never been handed a hot gun,” the actor allegedly kept saying. Can't know if it's hot if you don't check.
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Once again, how exactly do you tell if it’s hot if it is loaded with dummy cartridges?
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Once again, how exactly do you tell if it’s hot if it is loaded with dummy cartridges? Having an IQ above room temperature helps. So, no, there would be no way for Baldwin to tell.
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Once again, how exactly do you tell if it’s hot if it is loaded with dummy cartridges? Having an IQ above room temperature helps. Perhaps, but it depends on how realistic they are.
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Once again, how exactly do you tell if it’s hot if it is loaded with dummy cartridges? Do you load dummy rounds with live primers? I sure as he77 don't...
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No, but I can easily see how with a single action revolver where you have to spin the entire cylinder past the oading gate to look how one could miss that one live primer. And I can see fake live primers being used too. I remember in movies like Saving Private Ryan I always noticed that the rounds in the machine gun belts didn’t have primers.
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Would any sane person point a REAL gun with ANY type of ammunition in it and pull the trigger?
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I would think that with knowledge being what it is today that nobody would ever allow a gun (prop or not) to be aimed toward people.
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