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Why would there have been live ammo anywhere on the set?

I failed to add when they finish investigating there should be at least two people charged with negligent homicide in my opinion. Baldwin and the armourer as it appears so far.

One thing I haven’t seen mentioned is who was watching over the guns on the cart before it was picked up and handed to Baldwin? One more breakdown in safety protocol. At the very least it opens the possibility that someone could have messed with it. Not saying someone did.

Somebody put a live round into a pistol.

I wonder who all wont take a lie detector test.

Of course, being a professional actor and expert lying dimocommie, Alec would probably pass in
f lying colors.

If somebody on the crew came out about that in detail, they'd be banned from Hollywood.. Forever.

That was a very interesting and succinct interview with John Schneider and he's correct. The homicide detectives are going to be looking long and hard as to why a live round was in that gun Baldwin used.

Good for Schneider also addressing the "gun control" issue. Made a lot of sense.

L.W.

is it possible a revolver firing without pulling the trigger?

Something really fishy went on for sure according to this.

John Schneider didn't pull any punches.

Before it's over with, it will end up being Trump's fault.

It has been reported by Fox:

"Moments before the fatal shooting, Assistant Director Dave Halls grabbed a prop gun off the cart and brought it inside to Baldwin, unaware it was loaded with live rounds, detective wrote in the application."

Okay, what's "loaded", six rounds ? What are "live rounds" ? Live blanks, live fixed conventional (real) ammo ?

As someone posted earlier on this thread, it is almost always a series of events/errors that end in tragedy. This has to be the case here as well, but with a serious question on where or how the grievous round entered the set. Someone brought this round into play either intentionally or haphazardly. Either way that person is at the very least complicit in this death.

Next error is by the armorer that missed or did not ensure that a live round was not in the weapon. Or did not have enough knowledge or training to understand the identity of a live round or the appropriate insert for the purpose.

Third would be the armorer not controlling the weapon up to hand off to the actor. The Assistant Director should not be a middle man in this exchange. I would think the armorer would open the firearm, pull out the round and show the actor exactly what was going into the firearm and give last minute instruction before transferring possession.

Fourth would be the actor pointing a firearm with anything in the chamber at anyone and especially for a camera alignment when it was unnecessary for anything to be in the chamber. The L.A Times article states that the camera operator and director and assistant watch the actual filming from a safe room when a blank may be necessary for the take.

Fifth would be the director allowing a firearm with anything in the chamber to be used for a camera alignment. No need and an unnecessary risk.

Sixth would be the actor not taking firearm handling seriously. Pulling the trigger would be completely unnecessary for camera alignment. Especially with people manning the camera at the time. This supposedly veteran actor did not have his head in his job.

Who is responsible? All of the above. All are deficient in professionalism and seriousness of performance. None should ever work in this capacity again as a signal to everyone in the industry to take your job seriously.

So the armourer and assistant director handled the gun before idiot Baldwin, bring them up on charges...."here's and empty cold gun, you're ready to go buddy"

LOL, yep arrest idiot Baldwin.

it's a chiit show, plain and simple.

Yep.

A famous person once said, "Trust, but verify."

Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

And your correct, Baldwin is an idiot.

Love it. Schneider put Baldwin directly on the hot seat, exactly where he belongs. And Schneider is absolutely correct in calling it negligence, not an accident. Calling it an accident is bulshit and building a wormhole for Baldwin to slither through.

Anybody else noticed all of Baldwin's comments are "tragic accident", "We're all grieving", even to the husband of the woman who was killed. Instead of taking responsibility, he's cleverly sowing the seed of "accident". Baldwin is a worm pos.

I understand that basic safety precautions would have prevented this no matter if there was a live round or wedged projectile involved.
Has anyone addressed that several disgruntled employees up and left their jobs there that day? Maybe one of them decided on a little sabotage? Not realizing someone would likely get killed or worse yet, not caring?

That poor girl who was the armourer wasn’t that confident in her ability it seems. I can’t imagine what she’s going through now.
Baldwin is going to destroy her.

This was just in a Fox News article online ......."Moments before the fatal shooting, Assistant Director Dave Halls grabbed a prop gun off the cart and brought it inside to Baldwin, unaware that it was loaded with live rounds, a detective wrote in the application.

"Cold gun," Halls yelled." Halls was the assistant director. So many different stories. Seems like no one knows what happened and they are trying to point fingers in all directions, except AB who failed to exercise basic gun safety.