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Ultimately the boy must decide. He honestly has no real choice if he wants to fight for his own life. What a sick sick world. Sorry to hear this man. It is sickening. I hope whatever choice he makes, he comes out of it ok.
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Not to play devil's advocate, but I work for an orthopaedic clinic that denies surgery all the time if you test positive for nicotine. Nicotine damages bones and retards healing. Point is, surgery centers can make their own rules.
Sounds like your son better get the shot or find a new clinic.
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3 years ago before any of this started
Big medical partners practice in our city, their on hold music and messaging had a little happy statement about philosophical differences
If you refused to get your child MMR you would not be seen in the pediatric clinic. Take your floor length denim skirt homeschool mom anti alar treated apple meryl streep ass on down the road
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Not to play devil's advocate, but I work for an orthopaedic clinic that denies surgery all the time if you test positive for nicotine. Nicotine damages bones and retards healing. Point is, surgery centers can make their own rules.
Sounds like your son better get the shot or find a new clinic. Oh yeah. Nothing to see here, folks. Move along.
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Not saying I agree, but what is the option? It's not like you are skipping a Caribbean cruise...its surgery. Unless its hair transplants or a boob job, sounds like he doesn't have options.
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My daughter just got out of the hospital after being on the vent for a few days with covid. On the phone with the dr early in the process I mentioned I was on Ivermectin for the same condition. Dr blew up at me, acted like I was talking about poison. A few days later when daughter was doing better and I was allowed to visit, the dr pulled me aside and explained her position. The phone call was recorded so she had to follow the script. Said Drs are not allowed to treat patients the way they think they should, but follow beurocratic guidelines only if they want to retain their license. Explains several situations rivaling the 3 stooges I've seen the last few years.
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Not saying I agree, but what is the option? It's not like you are skipping a Caribbean cruise...its surgery. Unless its hair transplants or a boob job, sounds like he doesn't have options. It's poison. For some, fast acting. For many, slow acting. If you took it, I'm sorry. That doesn't mean it's an option for an informed person to agree to in order to have surgery. What good is surgery, if you've taken poison to get it?
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My daughter just got out of the hospital after being on the vent for a few days with covid. On the phone with the dr early in the process I mentioned I was on Ivermectin for the same condition. Dr blew up at me, acted like I was talking about poison. A few days later when daughter was doing better and I was allowed to visit, the dr pulled me aside and explained her position. The phone call was recorded so she had to follow the script. Said Drs are not allowed to treat patients the way they think they should, but follow beurocratic guidelines only if they want to retain their license. Explains several situations rivaling the 3 stooges I've seen the last few years. That's very much the situation in many places. It started with the hospitalist movement where doctors were either contracted or hired by the hospitals. Once hired their freedom of decision making was vulnerable to actions like you experienced. Or, as posted by Steve: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...king-mask-mandates-school-board-meeting/
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You old hens still wringing your hands over the vax? You get your 4th booster injection of the rat poison and aborted babies? Better run. Whoopie says supply chain getting tough. Trump's fault, you know..
Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want. Rehabilitation is way overrated. Orwell wasn't wrong. GOA member disappointed NRA member 24HCF SEARCH
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People who don't think taking the shot will modify their genetic makeup have nothing to lose.
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You old hens still wringing your hands over the vax? You get your 4th booster injection of the rat poison and aborted babies? Better run. Whoopie says supply chain getting tough. Trump's fault, you know.. You still have me on ignore, yet you have to look. Puzzy LOL
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People who don't think taking the shot will modify their genetic makeup have nothing to lose. Respectfully, my background is in the medical field. And while I firmly believe in personal choice, there comes a time when the facts are undeniable. -Al "You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality." - Ayn Rand (1905-1982)
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The facts are undeniable. Like liberals brains quit processing information objectively the minute they voted for Hillary.
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People who don't think taking the shot will modify their genetic makeup have nothing to lose. Respectfully, my background is in the medical field. And while I firmly believe in personal choice, there comes a time when the facts are undeniable. -Al "You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality." - Ayn Rand (1905-1982)Al, please spell out those facts clearly... Thanks
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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Al, please spell out those facts clearly... Thanks
I'm thinking he'll come up a little short on facts and long on democrat-approved talking points.
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"Respectfully, my background is in the medical field. And while I firmly believe in personal choice, there comes a time when the facts are undeniable. -Al "
Is it a fact that natural antibodies ceased to exist in 2020?
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Good luck to your son FB.
I just scheduled surgery last week at Allegheny in Pittsburgh for December. They asked if I'd had the shot and I said no. That was that, no other questions about it.
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Al, please spell out those facts clearly... Thanks
I'm thinking he'll come up a little short on facts and long on democrat-approved talking points. In fairness, let the man speak. There may be great wisdom (he said he was a medical professional). An open forum is... and has always been the bedrock of America.
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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Al, please spell out those facts clearly... Thanks
I'm thinking he'll come up a little short on facts and long on democrat-approved talking points. In fairness, let the man speak. There may be great wisdom (he said he was a medical professional). An open forum is... and has always been the bedrock of America. Who are you and what have you done with cash?!!! LOL
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