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Or similar that’s worth a fuggk? I’ve got enough long range mil reticles for 3 people but my wife’s 260 (she doesn’t play sniper and just kills stuff) with my first Vari-x II might be done. I’m swapping scopes to check it. If I have to send it in I won’t get it back in time for rifle deer. Everything seems to have a huge area of 10-15moa before the heavy duplex starts. Evidently everybody is a sniper and hunts in ideal light during mid day? I might just buy a Chinese illuminated reticle scope.

Bubba usually kills a deer at under 100 yards so I’m not sure why all the skinny useless reticles.

Fuggk I’m on a roll tonight. Might even break down and buy a MOA reticle scope from China.


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The firedot duplex in Leupold’s VXR is fairly bold, if you can find one. The Accurange circle-duplex in the Redfield Revolution shows up pretty well in lower light also. A used 6x42 Leupold in heavy duplex is a winner for medium range and dim conditions.


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Run a Want to Buy in the Classifieds for a Bushnell Firefly. They show up there time to time. Luminous reticle but you really don’t need it. The tri-plex reticle is plenty. They came in 1.5-4x32, 2-7x32and 3-9x40.


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Originally Posted by 260madman
I might just buy a Chinese illuminated reticle scope.

Fuggk I’m on a roll tonight. Might even break down and buy a MOA reticle scope from China.

Is this a threat?


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There's some Leupold on ebay right now. The last generation of heavy duplex from Leupold is probably a little thicker than what you have now. I think the world has moved on to illumination.


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I might just buy a Chinese illuminated reticle scope.

Fuggk I’m on a roll tonight. Might even break down and buy a MOA reticle scope from China.

Is this a threat?


The way things look it may be a promise. I don’t want to but it may happen.


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I've had a bunch of Leupold scopes with the standard Duplex reticle, but when I couldn't see it one year gunning a deer at absolute first light under heavy over cast under an evergreen canopy, I told myself that I wanted a Heavy Duplex 1.5-5 Leupold on my M99F. Holy smokes, there is no losing that reticle in heavy brush or low light and it is it ever easy to get the full fov in that little Leupold with its huge exit pupil. That 99F is my walking around rifle and inside a hundred yards or so it is a great hunting scope. Too much of a good thing though trying to target shoot. A few years back and I saw deer at a couple hundred yards moving through a mature pine plantation and didn't shoot because that heavy Duplex wasn't fine enough for a more precise shot. Ever since the battery in my old lighted Bushnell varmint scope corroded, I've had no use for a lighted reticle.


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I’ve never had any heavy duplex, G4, or even G1 be ‘too heavy’ for making a ‘precise shot’ in a hunting situation under 350 yards, the reticle thickness is most likely NOT the culprit….but that’s just my experience with using heavy reticles…..it’s like thinking tiny groups can’t be shot without fine reticles and high magnification. Shooter and range are the first limitations, not the sight apparatus if you can see it….and seeing it in low light cures anything a finer reticle would, in better light.

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Try looking through a Bushnell Nitro with the standard duplex...it appears to be a heavier duplex than many of the recent duplex variations.


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Have never liked the heavy duplex. Liked the reg and fine versions for a long while, with preference for the fine.

Now at about 60, i like the reg duplex better LOL

Still no likey the heavy.

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Run a Want to Buy in the Classifieds for a Bushnell Firefly. They show up there time to time. Luminous reticle but you really don’t need it. The tri-plex reticle is plenty. They came in 1.5-4x32, 2-7x32and 3-9x40.


^^^^^ This ^^^^^

The 2X7 is an excellent deep wood/brush scope where it is thick enough to get dark much earlier than open woods.

And at 7 power, if you check on a bore sighter grid, the 2nd increase in the triplex reticle is 8 inches below the cross hair center and the 3rd is 24 inches which equates about right for 300 and 400 yards for the average 150 grain .308 load sighted in at 200 yards.


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Originally Posted by wink_man
Originally Posted by shootem
Run a Want to Buy in the Classifieds for a Bushnell Firefly. They show up there time to time. Luminous reticle but you really don’t need it. The tri-plex reticle is plenty. They came in 1.5-4x32, 2-7x32and 3-9x40.


^^^^^ This ^^^^^

The 2X7 is an excellent deep wood/brush scope where it is thick enough to get dark much earlier than open woods.

And at 7 power, if you check on a bore sighter grid, the 2nd increase in the triplex reticle is 8 inches below the cross hair center and the 3rd is 24 inches which equates about right for 300 and 400 yards for the average 150 grain .308 load sighted in at 200 yards.


I'm not quite following you here. Eight inches of drop at 300 for a 200 zero would be about right, but at what distance is the reference for the 8" space in the reticle?

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The 2X7 is an excellent deep wood/brush scope where it is thick enough to get dark much earlier than open woods


We’ve had these on my and my wife’s 7mm08, son’s .260 and a .50 muzzle loader for years. Oh, and a 1.5-4 on a 44 Deerfield. Seem to hold zero well.


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Originally Posted by mathman

I'm not quite following you here. Eight inches of drop at 300 for a 200 zero would be about right, but at what distance is the reference for the 8" space in the reticle?


The grid pattern on a Bushnell Bore Sighter is for 100 yards. Each square on the bore sighter grid measures 4 inches by 4 inches at 100 yards. Put the scope up to 7 power and center the crosshair on the grid and the top of the 2nd increase in the triplex reticle is at the bottom of the 2nd square which is 8 inches, so you can use the top of the 2nd increase in the reticle as your aiming point at 300 yards.


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Originally Posted by wink_man
Originally Posted by mathman

I'm not quite following you here. Eight inches of drop at 300 for a 200 zero would be about right, but at what distance is the reference for the 8" space in the reticle?


The grid pattern on a Bushnell Bore Sighter is for 100 yards. Each square on the bore sighter grid measures 4 inches by 4 inches at 100 yards. Put the scope up to 7 power and center the crosshair on the grid and the top of the 2nd increase in the triplex reticle is at the bottom of the 2nd square which is 8 inches.


Than that's too much. If you're zeroed at 200 then the drop at 300 will be about 8" so your holdover point will need to show about 2.7" at 100.

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Ironsight, Inc., might be able to install their #1 reticle in a Leupold. That reticle is so heavy that it probably adds a full ounce of weight to any scope that it is installed on.

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The 2-7 and 3-9 3200s suffer on eye relief….or those I had did.

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Originally Posted by wink_man
Originally Posted by mathman

I'm not quite following you here. Eight inches of drop at 300 for a 200 zero would be about right, but at what distance is the reference for the 8" space in the reticle?


The grid pattern on a Bushnell Bore Sighter is for 100 yards. Each square on the bore sighter grid measures 4 inches by 4 inches at 100 yards. Put the scope up to 7 power and center the crosshair on the grid and the top of the 2nd increase in the triplex reticle is at the bottom of the 2nd square which is 8 inches, so you can use the top of the 2nd increase in the reticle as your aiming point at 300 yards.

Are you referring to this Bushnell grid?

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I use a lot of 6x42 leupies and have never had a problem picking up the duplex reticles with them. Even in north slope dark timber.....

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