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Still waiting for someone to show me the part of the manslaughter and negligent homicide statutes that exempt movie stars while filming.......

Sounds to me like she’s full of schitt. And probably lying to cover her ass after letting someone use that particular gun for target practice. With live ammo available on the Set.
She sounds more and more incompetent the further the investigation goes.
Hopefully it was the asswipe Baldwin doing the Target Practice.

Any prints off the case that fired the deadly shot?
Who put that round in the gun?

Still waiting for someone to show me the part of the manslaughter and negligent homicide statutes that exempt movie stars while filming.......

Dead broad black?

That could be a problem.

Dead broad black?

That could be a problem.

Let me know when these statements are accepted as a lawful defense for Baldwin's careless and negligent actions.

If the surgeon was aware that the same surgical instruments had been used a few minutes prior on an infected patient, that there were other unsterile instruments about the operating room, that the orderly in charge of sterilization was a rank noob and the surgeon took no measures to ensure the tool he was going to use for surgery was sterile, does that change the responsibility picture?

This. Baldwin is still responsible. Period.

This from “MosesTheTank” over in the ‘hide:

Hollywood agrees with you. They have always said the rules don't apply to them. Below are the rules germane to this conversation. Everyone who puts their hands on a firearm is responsible for following them, not the person who handed it to you. Because you are a celebrity does not mean you get to outsource personal responsibility, in spite of what you and your fans think. Thinking you bear no personal responsibility for the firearm in your hand is a reason you should not have a firearm in your hand. Single action pistols have been killing people for a long time. Knowledge about how to check them and their ammunition has been around for about the same period of time. If it's "too difficult", then maybe you shouldn't handle one.

It does not matter what group of people have ignored these rules, no matter their state of celebretorial grace, or for how many decades they have shucked all personal responsibility. This is how Mr. Baldwin killed someone. Not he and not anyone is above the rules.

1. ALWAYS KEEP YOUR FIREARM POINTED IN A SAFE DIRECTION.

2. TREAT ALL FIREARMS AS IF THEY WERE LOADED.

3. KEEP YOUR TRIGGER FINGER OUTSIDE THE GUARD AND OFF OF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOU ARE READY TO FIRE.

4. BE CERTAIN OF YOUR TARGET, YOUR LINE OF FIRE, AND WHAT LIES BEYOND YOUR TARGET.

I like to think I can comprehend the above four rules. Mr. Baldwin broke all four of them, according to my understanding.

Finally, did people actually die as a result of your childhood cowboys and Indian games???

Everyone agrees that Baldwin is at fault right?

Good.

That's settled.

Now everyone needs to agree (or not) that the snowflake armorer who shouldn't have even been considered for that job, the asst. director who handed Baldwin the revolver and called it a "cold gun" is at fault as well. Right alongside the producer(s) who allowed that dangerous crap on the set of the film, and hired the incompetent armorer.

Everyone agrees that Baldwin is at fault right?

Good.

That's settled.

Now everyone needs to agree (or not) that the snowflake armorer who shouldn't have even been considered for that job, the asst. director who handed Baldwin the revolver and called it a "cold gun" is at fault as well. Right alongside the producer(s) who allowed that dangerous crap on the set of the film, and hired the incompetent armorer.

Round and round the rosy. Again.

Yes. Baldwin is at fault. But knowing the industry, and what safety measures that have been used for 100 years in that industry, he isn't the only one at fault.

Some of you guys sure do confuse what is OUR reality of gun safety, and THEIR make believe world of theatrics.

To put actors "in charge of their own firearm safety" is like putting kindergartners in charge of getting across the busy highway on their own...

Nah. She’s a bleached blond snowflake. She’s got tats and looks like doper. I’m guessing she grew up in Hollyweird, since her Dad’s a famous Armorer that got her the “job”.

Nah. She’s a bleached blond snowflake. She’s got tats and looks like doper. I’m guessing she grew up in Hollyweird, since her Dad’s a famous Armorer that got her the “job”.

Case closed.

Criticize the others on set who failed to do their jobs...no one here is saying not to, but nobody but Baldwin pulled the trigger and that makes him ultimately responsible.