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No one accuses someone carrying a rifle with a blind magazine of being a road hunter! Wow. It doesn't take much thinking to get around that. Jerry Yeah. More "campfire logic".
I am continually astounded at how quickly people make up their minds on little evidence or none at all. Jack O'Connor
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I like not having my hand on the metal when carrying. And i dont cycle rounds through the action to empty a blind mag rifle. Do the bump n flip. Learned that as a kid w my 660 in .222. Have owned several BDL. Just never used the floorplace feature.
Just something cold to get scratched up IMHO.
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I don't think I will ever own another centerfire bolt rifle without AICS pattern mags. Never saw the attraction to blind floorplates, and hinged floorplates are only moderately less annoying.
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Blind mag holds water better. From experience. Other than that I see no benefit. Joe You don’t hear people talk about that ‘ benefit ‘. Jerry No , nobody talks about that one much. (Day in question I had just walked back to camp several miles in one of the worst rain storms I had been out in while hunting, clearing my rifle to clean it, I just noticed mag box full of water and thought "interesting, never thought about that".
Doing the right thing is not always the easiest thing. It still needs doing..
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No one accuses someone carrying a rifle with a blind magazine of being a road hunter! Wow. It doesn't take much thinking to get around that. Jerry Yeah. More "campfire logic". If people can’t figure out it was a joke...
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No , nobody talks about that one much. (Day in question I had just walked back to camp several miles in one of the worst rain storms I had been out in while hunting, clearing my rifle to clean it, I just noticed mag box full of water and thought "interesting, never thought about that".
As I said I only owned 1 ADL and it was a shooter BUT was never in that situation. I think guys need to know that’s possible. Jerry
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Blind or hinged floor plate are both good to go. I've had three with rifles with drop magazines including an AR, BLR and a 700DM. I got rid of them. Only rifles like an M14 work well with a magazine that drops out, IMO.
Last edited by Bugger; 11/03/21.
I prefer classic. Semper Fi I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise and I do my own stunts but rarely intentionally
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I must be the luckiest sumbuck that walks.
I have 2 rifles with DBMs and most with Floorplates (hinged) and to date
NOT one has opened on its own NOR has 1 DBM dropped out.
Frankly I don’t believe ALL the horror stories some, yes all no.
Blind magazines are on the BOTTOM of my list. I actually prefer DBMs.
Jerry
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Blind or hinged floor plate are both good to go. I've had three with rifles with drop magazines including an AR, BLR and a 700DM. I got rid of them. Only rifles like an M14 work well with a magazine that drops out, IMO. What's your definition of "work well?"
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As in no problems what so ever. Detachable magazines on the other hand are abominations.
With some exceptions some rifles a detachable magazine is the only way you can get it. But for instance a model 700 with a detachable magazine is the worst idea that came out of Illion.
A M14, M16 and such was necessary for quick recharging of a weapon. In a hinting rifle it’s just junk, IMO.
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I prefer classic. Semper Fi I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise and I do my own stunts but rarely intentionally
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I like my abominations, and based on the current trend of off the shelf rifles, so do a lot folks. AICS pattern mags work. All the time, without drama.
The fact that your benchmark for magazine fed rifles is the M14, however, is fairly interesting.
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I own rifles with both and prefer a floorplate or box magazine for the handiness of it.....Hb
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I like not having my hand on the metal when carrying. And i dont cycle rounds through the action to empty a blind mag rifle. Do the bump n flip. Learned that as a kid w my 660 in .222. Have owned several BDL. Just never used the floorplace feature.
Just something cold to get scratched up IMHO. +1! Very easy to pop the rounds out without cycling.
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Not a fan of blind magazines. I want easy access to the well should problems arise.
Stuck in airports, Terrorized Sent to meetings, Hypnotized Over-exposed, Commercialized Handle me with Care... -Traveling Wilbury's
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Not a fan of blind magazines. I want easy access to the well should problems arise. I don't like the looks of blind magazines and do not purchase blind magzine rifles.
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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I think there is advantages and disadvantages;
Advantages 1. Don't have to spend enormous amounts of money on new magazines which aren't even available today anywhere 2. you can't lose a blind mag
Disadvantaages 1. takes more time and effort to unload. We still drive deer and have to be unloaded on the road when we come out. Unloading and loading is really the only disadvantage i see.
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There are bad hinged floor plates but the good ones do not pop open. PTG makes Oberndorf style bottom metal for 700s and 70s if yours is lacking. Laughing! PTG bottom metal sucks and if that was my only option I’d have a blind magazine on every rifle I owned. They are wonderful at unloading themselves on your boot tops. Hate them.
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There are bad hinged floor plates but the good ones do not pop open. PTG makes Oberndorf style bottom metal for 700s and 70s if yours is lacking. Laughing! PTG bottom metal sucks and if that was my only option I’d have a blind magazine on every rifle I owned. They are wonderful at unloading themselves on your boot tops. Hate them. Agreed. Not worth a cold puddle of piss.
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I’m very inexperienced, buuuut, make mine adl, bdl in a pinch. No “clips” or magazines here…👍
Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
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