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Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
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How are the 15 round mags working out? The metal mag release is a necessity, correct?

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I wish those guys (Shield) would get back on their original project of making a 9 to 10-round Glock 43 mag.


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The Kel-Tek PF9 is only 12.6 ounces.

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Originally Posted by JB in SC
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How are the 15 round mags working out? The metal mag release is a necessity, correct?


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MY personal choices is based around the thought process of what I actually would want to use in a fight, versus what is comfortable or convenient, though that does play a factor. What I have found size wise for me is that while I can shoot a G26 slow fire pretty accurately, I cannot do so in a rapid manner. Running a G26 through typical USPSA drills I find that the G26 is simply too small for my size XL hands and my performance suffers substantially compared to a G19/17.

I find the G19 is about the smallest I am willing to go, that were I to be forced to engage a couple of BGs, that I would be comfortable with the handgun, my ability to perform with it, and the on board capacity. While I carry a J frame often as a BUG, the G19 is really the smallest in terms of daily primary carry.

Yes, there are a bunch of new guns on the market now that are roughly the same category. Yes they all do something new and improved. But most are still guns that require a holster. While there is nothing new or exciting about a G19, I trust it completely as I have used one rather extensively personally and as a work gun and that familiarity to the point of unconscious competence is another factor that tends to have me favor the G19 (or a G17/34). I don't have to think about running one or lining up the sights or trigger control. I can focus on the threat.

Frankly I consider Glock 9mms to be like high quality utility knives. There is not a single thing exciting about it. But as long as you feed it quality ammo/blades, whatever, it will give you a lifetime of reliable service.

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Put the pistol in a high quality holster and a proper belt and you are good to go. The holster and belt play far more into carrying comfort than many inexperienced tend to realize. I see guys complaining about how XX is too big to carry but upon further discussion it is revealed that they put their $700 fancy blaster in a $25 piece of garbage and hate carrying the gun due to discomfort. A proper holster makes all the difference in the world.


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Mrs Walter has the PPS M2 and likes it.

For the size, a 365XL offers more bangs in the magazine.


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Originally Posted by Clarkm
The Kel-Tek PF9 is only 12.6 ounces.

May 22, 2016 — The handgun used to kill unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin in 2012 has been sold for $250,000 (£172,000), US media say.


Nice to be able to drop it in your pocket and go. 18oz fully loaded.
I actually carry all the time and the PF9 is very convenient.

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Mighty difficult to disagree with a 19, the trigger reach is a little too much for me so I carry a 43X. I have Mitch Rosen OWB holsters and they work very well with a good belt.

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Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
MY personal choices is based around the thought process of what I actually would want to use in a fight, versus what is comfortable or convenient, though that does play a factor. What I have found size wise for me is that while I can shoot a G26 slow fire pretty accurately, I cannot do so in a rapid manner. Running a G26 through typical USPSA drills I find that the G26 is simply too small for my size XL hands and my performance suffers substantially compared to a G19/17.

I find the G19 is about the smallest I am willing to go, that were I to be forced to engage a couple of BGs, that I would be comfortable with the handgun, my ability to perform with it, and the on board capacity. While I carry a J frame often as a BUG, the G19 is really the smallest in terms of daily primary carry.

Yes, there are a bunch of new guns on the market now that are roughly the same category. Yes they all do something new and improved. But most are still guns that require a holster. While there is nothing new or exciting about a G19, I trust it completely as I have used one rather extensively personally and as a work gun and that familiarity to the point of unconscious competence is another factor that tends to have me favor the G19 (or a G17/34). I don't have to think about running one or lining up the sights or trigger control. I can focus on the threat.

Frankly I consider Glock 9mms to be like high quality utility knives. There is not a single thing exciting about it. But as long as you feed it quality ammo/blades, whatever, it will give you a lifetime of reliable service.

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Put the pistol in a high quality holster and a proper belt and you are good to go. The holster and belt play far more into carrying comfort than many inexperienced tend to realize. I see guys complaining about how XX is too big to carry but upon further discussion it is revealed that they put their $700 fancy blaster in a $25 piece of garbage and hate carrying the gun due to discomfort. A proper holster makes all the difference in the world.




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Originally Posted by Clarkm
The Kel-Tek PF9 is only 12.6 ounces.

May 22, 2016 — The handgun used to kill unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin in 2012 has been sold for $250,000 (£172,000), US media say.


If one does not mind long heaver trigger pull there is one of the original micro 9s which was an alternative to G26. It was called P11 and can be found on second-hand market in USA depending on condition for <$250.

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Originally Posted by Slavek
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The Kel-Tek PF9 is only 12.6 ounces.

May 22, 2016 — The handgun used to kill unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin in 2012 has been sold for $250,000 (£172,000), US media say.


If one does not mind long heaver trigger pull there is one of the original micro 9s which was an alternative to G26. It was called P11 and can be found on second-hand market in USA depending on condition for <$250.


The KT P11 is hardly "micro". And yeah that trigger sucks badly. It paled in light of the K9 which appeared on the scene about the same time. The advent of the P9 should have been the final nail in the KT P11's coffin, but so many people believe their life is worth only half the price. Guns like the CW9 and the Shield must have finally finished it off - thankfully.

The PF9 probably isn't far behind - although it's a far better piece than the P11.

And as much as I've liked the Kahr line, none of the above is "the best".


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Originally Posted by FreeMe
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The Kel-Tek PF9 is only 12.6 ounces.

May 22, 2016 — The handgun used to kill unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin in 2012 has been sold for $250,000 (£172,000), US media say.


If one does not mind long heaver trigger pull there is one of the original micro 9s which was an alternative to G26. It was called P11 and can be found on second-hand market in USA depending on condition for <$250.


The KT P11 is hardly "micro". And yeah that trigger sucks badly. It paled in light of the K9 which appeared on the scene about the same time. The advent of the P9 should have been the final nail in the KT P11's coffin, but so many people believe their life is worth only half the price. Guns like the CW9 and the Shield must have finally finished it off - thankfully.

The PF9 probably isn't far behind - although it's a far better piece than the P11.

And as much as I've liked the Kahr line, none of the above is "the best".


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What’s the difference between the model 48 and 43 Glocks? I just don’t recall seeing here or Lgs anything about the 48’s.

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Originally Posted by viking
What’s the difference between the model 48 and 43 Glocks? I just don’t recall seeing here or Lgs anything about the 48’s.

The grip frame is longer and wider (permitting double stack mags) on the 48. Slide/barrel is longer, too.

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When I carry a 9mm (not that often; I usually have a 2" S&W Airweight on me), I like a BHP. Holster is an Israeli-inside the pants product that hides the pistol well and is very comfortable. Been thinking about a Glock 19 lately, though. It's definitely been around long enough.
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Originally Posted by RGK
When I carry a 9mm (not that often; I usually have a 2" S&W Airweight on me), I like a BHP. Holster is an Israeli-inside the pants product that hides the pistol well and is very comfortable. Been thinking about a Glock 19 lately, though. It's definitely been around long enough.
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These are not bad if you find aluminum alloy framed one once used by police departments in certain European countries (not sure if Belgium, Denmark or Holland?) Unfortunately in USA uncommon means big $, but if you can manage DA/SA you can find bargain in form of Gen 3 S&W alloy framed pistols. The compacts had 12 round magazines and were DA/SA or DAO configuration. These can be found in 9x19 or .40S&W for <$400 even if in excellent condition ie much < SIG or BHP.

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Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush



Put the pistol in a high quality holster and a proper belt and you are good to go. The holster and belt play far more into carrying comfort than many inexperienced tend to realize. I see guys complaining about how XX is too big to carry but upon further discussion it is revealed that they put their $700 fancy blaster in a $25 piece of garbage and hate carrying the gun due to discomfort. A proper holster makes all the difference in the world.



Ok, but not everyone is in top shape with little body fat. Fat people will need suspenders to keep large/heavier gun up and clothing does not simply drape down past their waist, therefore, concealment will be more difficult for them.

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There is no such thing as a "best" CC 9mm. As long as you stay with the offerings of Glock, S&W, Springfield, SIG, Ruger, Kahr, Walther, etc, you can't go wrong. Just pick the one that is "best" for you.

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Originally Posted by JB in SC
Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
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How are the 15 round mags working out? The metal mag release is a necessity, correct?


The metal mag release is recommended. I could see where metal against polymer could cause some wear issues down the road.

Here's a good vid covering the 43X and the Shield magazines with 15-round, and extended with 20-round capacities.


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