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Please reconsider your puzzling (irrational?) contention - you would be better off for doing so.
LOL. I'm far from the only LEO who didn't care for the .357 much. If you'd been inside the small cabin with 2 of us shooting off 2 1/2" M66's at guys with a Mini14 and a 9mm... all in close quarters, and having hearing loss permanent like, and need of better stopping power and more shots, you might change your mind.  My ears are still ringing as I type this. If the .357 were such a crackerjack LEO round, why are departments not using it anymore? They don't come in plastic .
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What would you carry if you were still on the job rockinbar?
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The 357magnum is BEST, "manstopper" EVER designed, FBI/Agency statistics through the years prove it, as that was it's sole design purpose. Just because revolvers have fallen out of favor, doesn't make the 357mag any less effective. Because I'm proficient with all my firearms, 357mag would be my first choice, if I couldn't get to a long gun. 357magnum, Long Live The King!
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Rockinbbar: During my 29 year law enforcement career I also carried a 357 Magnum (Smith & Wesson Model 66 6") for MANY years and found it lacking in NOTHING!
In fact I was saddened when my 1,100 man department opted to go universally to the Glocks in 40 S&W.
I purchased that S&W Model 66 6" (for $60.00 as per city ordinance!) and have it to this day!
And as far as I know YOU are the only law enforcement type "decrier" of the 357 Magnum for police work/self defense/fun gun that I have ever even heard of!
To each their own - they say.
Please reconsider your puzzling (irrational?) contention - you would be better off for doing so.
Long live the wonderful, powerful, versatile and accurate 357 Magnum cartridge/firearms.
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VarmintGuy What type of ammo did you fire with your M66? Did you also use the 125 HV hollow points? 6 inch for police duty? Isn't that a little bit long? Which holster did you take for carrying your M66?
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Cost and snowflakes I believe were the contributing factors to the demise of the 357 Sig in law enforcement.
Let’s see how fast we can dump a mag.
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What would you carry if you were still on the job rockinbar? Oh I still dabble in law enforcement from time to time. May yet again look at the Constable's election next time... but I doubt it. I'm not too much of a fan of local politics. I'd still carry my Colt 1911 45ACP with 230gr Fed. Hydra Shoks. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/ZeAPADW.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/DIDehWt.jpg) Not saying the .357 isn't a good stopper, or even a good hunting cartridge. Just saying I don't really have a need for one, and love my 1911's. Wouldn't have one of those Coonan .357 atrocities either. 
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6 inch for police duty? Isn't that a little bit long? Which holster did you take for carrying your M66?
Prior to the 1950s, six inch was a pretty standard barrel length for a police officer in the US. As patrolling in cars became more the norm than patrolling on foot, they switched to four inch barrels.
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I'd still carry my Colt 1911 45ACP with 230gr Fed. Hydra Shoks.
Hydra Shoks? There are a couple of bullet designs that have proven superior to them in the last decade or so, like HST and Gold Dot. Why do you favor the Hydra Shoks?
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Poor guy who played Buffalo Bill, Ted Levine (?), apparently really hurt his career by doing such a good job of being a bad guy.
Same thing happened to Andrew Robinson after Dirty Harry. ![[Linked Image from trekmovie.com]](https://trekmovie.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/andyrobinson-dirtyharry.jpg) He could only play roles where his face was unrecognizable. Here he is with a vagina on his forehead. ![[Linked Image from trekmovie.com]](https://trekmovie.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/andyrobinson-int-head.jpg)
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6 inch for police duty? Isn't that a little bit long? Which holster did you take for carrying your M66?
Prior to the 1950s, six inch was a pretty standard barrel length for a police officer in the US. As patrolling in cars became more the norm than patrolling on foot, they switched to four inch barrels. Ahhh, thank you!
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I'd still carry my Colt 1911 45ACP with 230gr Fed. Hydra Shoks.
Hydra Shoks? There are a couple of bullet designs that have proven superior to them in the last decade or so, like HST and Gold Dot. Why do you favor the Hydra Shoks? Actually, I think my latest box of 50 for carrying are the HST's. I did some ammo development testing for ATK (they owned Federal at the time) and they gave me lots of ammo. I had them include some .45acp Hydro Shoks, and the sent enough that I've been using out of that stock for years.
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What reasons are there to keep 357mag revolver?
They are awesomely powerful and versatile. I am not the right person to ask that question. LOL I may not be the right person either. I own six 357 revolvers. It would be wrong to say I’m not a little fond of the cartridge. Hasbeen
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For me, they were a cheap way to get a good centerfire revolver. This would have been when every police department around was trading them in. $200-$300 would get a good one. My first was a 4"trooper mkIII, the next a 4" 28-2 highway patrolman. The trooper went down the road years ago, while the 28 added a *few* N-frame companions over the years.
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Back in the day, .38 Special was significantly cheaper than 9mm & .45 ACP. So the .357 magnum made sense because you could shoot it cheaply, and yet you have a first rate cartridge for defense. These days, .38 Special isn't cheap; certainly no cheaper than bulk 9mm or .45.
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Back in the day, .38 Special was significantly cheaper than 9mm & .45 ACP. So the .357 magnum made sense because you could shoot it cheaply, and yet you have a first rate cartridge for defense. These days, .38 Special isn't cheap; certainly no cheaper than bulk 9mm or .45. Back in 1980 and thereabout, I used to shoot my Model 67 S&W .357 Magnum very cheaply by stopping by the local gun store on the way to the range and picking up extremely inexpensive .38 Special, target wadcutter, reloads. If you returned your brass to the gun store, you got it even cheaper. I swear, I think it was like $5.00 a box of fifty if you returned your spent cases. This was when it was the standard police round, and there were big local companies that reloaded them for sale on large scale.
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Yeah, cheap .38 reloads were easy to find if you knew where to look. But even factory new wadcutter loads were a good 25% cheaper than 9mm back then. And that was some accurate ammo too!
Today's "cheap" .38 specials with the 130gr FMJ's are sufficiently accurate for fun, but not great if you want to shoot little, tight groups. And they're often slightly more than the cheaper 9mm's.
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Yeah, the 357 mag in the last five to ten years has become a lot less common.
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Yeah, the 357 mag in the last five to ten years has become a lot less common. But not less efficient. A great round!
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.357 magnum? Yes, I like that cartridge, very versatile, mild to wild. Mostly I like Smith&Wesson’s…… M19-2, M66, M27-2. ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/NfqQXkQT/60-C6-AF09-90-A5-45-D9-ACE2-33-CCAC42532-A.jpg)
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.357 magnum? Yes, I like that cartridge, very versatile, mild to wild. Mostly I like Smith&Wesson’s…… M19-2, M66, M27-2. Nice
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