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Originally Posted by Greyghost
Guilty, plain and simple... its a shame and I imagine their was someone or a group that was behind the kids brainwashing. But to each their own, he committed an act of planned murder, all he left to chance was who the victims would be. The phony crying scene did more to hurt his case, bit I still imagine that one will elect to let him skate, just as with the others.

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Originally Posted by Greyghost
Guilty, plain and simple... its a shame and I imagine their was someone or a group that was behind the kids brainwashing. But to each their own, he committed an act of planned murder, all he left to chance was who the victims would be. The phony crying scene did more to hurt his case, bit I still imagine that one will elect to let him skate, just as with the others.

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Originally Posted by Skankhunt42
Originally Posted by Greyghost
Guilty, plain and simple... its a shame and I imagine their was someone or a group that was behind the kids brainwashing. But to each their own, he committed an act of planned murder, all he left to chance was who the victims would be. The phony crying scene did more to hurt his case, bit I still imagine that one will elect to let him skate, just as with the others.

Phil


You never disappoint in showing how much of a truely stupid Fugg you are.

Sad thing is, there are prolly one or more members on that jury just like him.


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Originally Posted by Greyghost
Guilty, plain and simple... its a shame and I imagine their was someone or a group that was behind the kids brainwashing. But to each their own, he committed an act of planned murder, all he left to chance was who the victims would be. The phony crying scene did more to hurt his case, bit I still imagine that one will elect to let him skate, just as with the others.

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You couldn’t be a bigger khu nt is you tried. Other than your emotions, what evidence supports your lie?


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Originally Posted by Greyghost
Guilty, plain and simple... its a shame and I imagine their was someone or a group that was behind the kids brainwashing. But to each their own, he committed an act of planned murder, all he left to chance was who the victims would be. The phony crying scene did more to hurt his case, bit I still imagine that one will elect to let him skate, just as with the others.

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That and about a gallon of Barry’s load


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Originally Posted by Mac84
Originally Posted by Greyghost
Guilty, plain and simple... its a shame and I imagine their was someone or a group that was behind the kids brainwashing. But to each their own, he committed an act of planned murder, all he left to chance was who the victims would be. The phony crying scene did more to hurt his case, bit I still imagine that one will elect to let him skate, just as with the others.

Phil


You couldn’t be a bigger khu nt is you tried. Other than your emotions, what evidence supports your lie?


I’d say normally she’s not serious. Just another provocateur getting her jollies. But in this case I really believe it’s a sincerely held position

I think the kid walks. And I hope he bankrupts the city with a lawsuit.


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Originally Posted by steve4102
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Originally Posted by Greyghost
Guilty, plain and simple... its a shame and I imagine their was someone or a group that was behind the kids brainwashing. But to each their own, he committed an act of planned murder, all he left to chance was who the victims would be. The phony crying scene did more to hurt his case, bit I still imagine that one will elect to let him skate, just as with the others.

Phil


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Sad thing is, there are prolly one or more members on that jury just like him.


You are more than likely correct.

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Originally Posted by Muffin
I'd like to see the look on the prosecutors face if they come back before lunch with a verdict..............


Jurors almost always will opt for the free lunch


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Originally Posted by szihn
He's as not-guilty as they come. Filmed outright proof he was trying to get away and was attacked and one criminal shot was pointing a gun at him at that time the bullet impacted. All were openly calling for his harm or death, all recorded. It was all known long before this trial nd even before the arrest.


The fact there ANY trial is PROOF you can't trust government at all, anywhere, at any time.

Cops and prosecutors nearly always do what their owners tell them to do no matter how wrong it is. No matter how much they know it wrong either.


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You must be a carpenter. You nailed that chit. Those prosecutors should be flogged


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I read that protesters are 'demanding' that he be convicted. That's a trial? There's no law in America that can condone that.


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
I read that protesters are 'demanding' that he be convicted. That's a trial? There's no law in America that can condone that.


He’s also mentioned fmj ammo is more dangerous

There’s no left handed guns

If you point a gun at someone you forfeit your right to self defense

If you bring a gun somewhere you forfeit your right to self defense

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The dead/wounded aren’t black and they aren’t paying for unrest with a Dem in office. They won’t burn sh*t if he is found not guilty.


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I was disappointed in the defense lawyers closing argument. Wish he’d measured the four feet from the jury box, looked them all in the eye so he knew how close it was, turned his back & then spun around lunged towards the jury & slapped the railing. That’s how long Kyle had to determine if this raving lunatic fresh outa jail was going to take his rifle & shoot Kyle & others. That’s real time folks, place yourself in Kyles shoes, what would you have done in 3/4 of a second ?


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Originally Posted by 2legit2quit
I was disappointed in the defense lawyers closing argument. Wish he’d measured the four feet from the jury box, looked them all in the eye so he knew how close it was, turned his back & then spun around lunged towards the jury & slapped the railing. That’s how long Kyle had to determine if this raving lunatic fresh outa jail was going to take his rifle & shoot Kyle & others. That’s real time folks, place yourself in Kyles shoes, what would you have done in 3/4 of a second ?


I thought the defense closing argument was one of the poorer performances I have seen a defense lawyer give. And make no doubt about it, effective closings are a performance.

One thing that jumped out at me was the over reliance on videos. A good lawyers stock in trade is his words. I thought by over using PowerPoint and video that the defense never got into a cadence or rhythm when doing his closing. Also if you are going to use electronic props, make sure you are practiced in them so you aren't fumbling with them like he did.

Wish the defense could have gotten the judge to reconsider not allowing Rosenbaughs past criminal record. I think the fact that he had served 10 years in prison for child rape likely meant that he had been in dozens of fights, and defense could have brought in a record of his prison infractions to prove this. A 36 year old veteran of dozens of jailhouse fights has a distinct advantage against a 17 year old. I think that when Binger brought up a "bar fight" scenario he opened the door for this.


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Originally Posted by 2legit2quit
I was disappointed in the defense lawyers closing argument. Wish he’d measured the four feet from the jury box, looked them all in the eye so he knew how close it was, turned his back & then spun around lunged towards the jury & slapped the railing. That’s how long Kyle had to determine if this raving lunatic fresh outa jail was going to take his rifle & shoot Kyle & others. That’s real time folks, place yourself in Kyles shoes, what would you have done in 3/4 of a second ?


Dumbass's can't think of something like this .


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I’m reading some of you are not only disappointed in the Defense closing arguments, but also in the jury instruction by the judge, does this mean you are losing confidence in acquittal or a hung jury?


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Juries are unpredictable. One member can latch onto the oddest little aspect of a complex case, and sway the other members to fixate on it.

I still think him being acquitted is the most likely outcome.

Binger all but insulted the intelligence of the jury in some of his statements in closing, and came across as completely unlikable. I think they will see he has no credibility. I thought the Rolly-Polly DA that did the rebuttal did a better job.

But a stronger showing by the defense in closing would have made things surer.


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I thought the Rolly-Polly DA that did the rebuttal did a better job.
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I would have hoped the jury returned a verdict by now, mostly likely meaning they were all in favor of an acquittal

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