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They were pretty expensive in comparison to a Winchester or Marlin of the same timeframe, which was certainly a factor in lower sales. Ended up being a really long run niche rifle, as compared to an everyman's sort of gun.
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Well they made over one million 99's
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From what I've read, nobody seems to know exactly how many Savage 99's were produced but it was certainly nowhere near the 7 million + of the Win. 94 and not even close to the 3 million + of the Marlin 336. Given that, plus the fact that it is long discontinued while the '94 and 336 are still being made, it's hard to call the 99 "so popular".
Think of it like high end luxury cars vs. Ford Tempos. Sure Ford sold more Tempos, but do we really want to talk about which one is better?
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From what I've read, nobody seems to know exactly how many Savage 99's were produced but it was certainly nowhere near the 7 million + of the Win. 94 and not even close to the 3 million + of the Marlin 336. Given that, plus the fact that it is long discontinued while the '94 and 336 are still being made, it's hard to call the 99 "so popular".
Think of it like high end luxury cars vs. Ford Tempos. Sure Ford sold more Tempos, but do we really want to talk about which one is better? Better for what ? Nothing handles/carries/balances better than a Winchester 94/92. My model 94 is 72 years old and still going strong. I've shot the piss out of it since I bought it in 1982 and it had some miles on it then. I have killed a pile of deer and varmints with it and It will still shoot into less than 2" with my aging eyes at 100 yards with iron sights. It has never malfunctioned in all these years and never broke down and it's far better looking than any 99.
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They were pretty expensive in comparison to a Winchester or Marlin of the same timeframe, which was certainly a factor in lower sales. Ended up being a really long run niche rifle, as compared to an everyman's sort of gun. Yep, always a niche rifle for those who didn't mind a little ugly and needed the extra reach or at least thought they might.
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I have mixed feelings on handling. I do think a 16-20" barreled 94 pulls up a bit better than any of my 99s, but my 22" barreled 1899A is the best carrying lever I've ever handled, by far. The 26 inchers aren't balanced quite as well in the hand.
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Winchester 71 is a fine lever action imo
As is the 1895/95
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You can use a BLR or a Henry long ranger or a Win 88 or a Sako Finnwolf to do the same thing. None are real lever actions but they are all arguably better looking than a 99. So guns that were designed and made anywhere over half a century to a century later than the 99 can do the same thing as the 99? Well, dang.. that’s a real endorsement of the brilliance of Arthur Savage. 130 years and the best other companies have done is matched his rifle. And I think you’re the only person on the face of the earth that thinks the BLR is better looking than pretty much anything. But that’s fine, there’s room in this world for people who like anything.
“ The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”. All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered. Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com
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Ouch! Those steel buttplates make me wince! I’ve not shot those particular guns, but I have shot some other ones that made me regret it Not even the slightest problem on an 1899 once you learn the proper way to shoulder it. Can shoot them all day perfectly comfortably in the cartridges they were chambered in. Never shot the Anniversay edition with crescent buttplate and in 308. Might have to be careful with that.
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Why Is The Savage 99 So Popular? Because it's a better rifle that offers the use of pointy bullets and faster cartridges. Easier to scope than a 94 helped too. From what I've read, nobody seems to know exactly how many Savage 99's were produced but it was certainly nowhere near the 7 million + of the Win. 94 and not even close to the 3 million + of the Marlin 336. Given that, plus the fact that it is long discontinued while the '94 and 336 are still being made, it's hard to call the 99 "so popular". I didn't say they sold more than the 94 or 336. The 99 was very popular nonetheless.
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It is so "popular" here on the fire blacky.
Wether you like it or not.
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From what I've read, nobody seems to know exactly how many Savage 99's were produced but it was certainly nowhere near the 7 million + of the Win. 94 and not even close to the 3 million + of the Marlin 336. Given that, plus the fact that it is long discontinued while the '94 and 336 are still being made, it's hard to call the 99 "so popular". It's known. And we already covered the 1899/99 was more expensive than the 94 and 336, but just going on sales doesn't make something less popular. Unless you're arguing that the 1965 Ford Mustang was only as popular as the 1974 Ford Pinto.
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“ The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”. All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered. Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com
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From what I've read, nobody seems to know exactly how many Savage 99's were produced but it was certainly nowhere near the 7 million + of the Win. 94 and not even close to the 3 million + of the Marlin 336. Given that, plus the fact that it is long discontinued while the '94 and 336 are still being made, it's hard to call the 99 "so popular". It's known. And we already covered the 1899/99 was more expensive than the 94 and 336, but just going on sales doesn't make something less popular. Unless you're arguing that the 1965 Ford Mustang was only as popular as the 1974 Ford Pinto. LOL ...... That wasn't my quote. 
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You can use a BLR or a Henry long ranger or a Win 88 or a Sako Finnwolf to do the same thing. None are real lever actions but they are all arguably better looking than a 99. So guns that were designed and made anywhere over half a century to a century later than the 99 can do the same thing as the 99? Well, dang.. that’s a real endorsement of the brilliance of Arthur Savage. 130 years and the best other companies have done is matched his rifle. And I think you’re the only person on the face of the earth that thinks the BLR is better looking than pretty much anything. But that’s fine, there’s room in this world for people who like anything. Never said I thought the BLR was good looking but tell yourself what you must. The advantage of the BLR or Henry long ranger is that they're still being made. They're all pretty damned ugly.
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From what I've read, nobody seems to know exactly how many Savage 99's were produced but it was certainly nowhere near the 7 million + of the Win. 94 and not even close to the 3 million + of the Marlin 336. Given that, plus the fact that it is long discontinued while the '94 and 336 are still being made, it's hard to call the 99 "so popular". It's known. And we already covered the 1899/99 was more expensive than the 94 and 336, but just going on sales doesn't make something less popular. Unless you're arguing that the 1965 Ford Mustang was only as popular as the 1974 Ford Pinto. How many ? Did they make it to a million and a half ? That would at least make it about half as "popular" as the 336.
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Why Is The Savage 99 So Popular? Because it's a better rifle that offers the use of pointy bullets and faster cartridges. Easier to scope than a 94 helped too. From what I've read, nobody seems to know exactly how many Savage 99's were produced but it was certainly nowhere near the 7 million + of the Win. 94 and not even close to the 3 million + of the Marlin 336. Given that, plus the fact that it is long discontinued while the '94 and 336 are still being made, it's hard to call the 99 "so popular". I didn't say they sold more than the 94 or 336. The 99 was very popular nonetheless. You mean very popular like the 94 at 7 million + copies or the Marlin 60 at 10 million or the 10-22 at 10 million or the Remington 700 at 7 million ? I don't fuggin think so. A million plus over the number of years the 99 was produced is not the hallmark of a "very popular" rifle. Like it or not.
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It is so "popular" here on the fire blacky.
Wether you like it or not. Shut up bitch.
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Bitch huh? You're the faqq trolling people because they enjoy a firearm you don't.
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I only have one 99 and I have several Winchesters and Marlins. I shot more deer with the Savage 99 than all the others combined. It wears a scope and is chambered in 300 Savage. The 300 Savage is almost perfect cartridge for deer if shots are under 300 yards. The rifle is easily scoped.
But I shoot more cast bullets in my Marlins and Winchesters.
I prefer classic.
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From what I've read, nobody seems to know exactly how many Savage 99's were produced but it was certainly nowhere near the 7 million + of the Win. 94 and not even close to the 3 million + of the Marlin 336. Given that, plus the fact that it is long discontinued while the '94 and 336 are still being made, it's hard to call the 99 "so popular". It's known. And we already covered the 1899/99 was more expensive than the 94 and 336, but just going on sales doesn't make something less popular. Unless you're arguing that the 1965 Ford Mustang was only as popular as the 1974 Ford Pinto. How many ? Did they make it to a million and a half ? That would at least make it about half as "popular" as the 336. So you do believe the 1965 Ford Mustang and 1974 Ford Pinto were equally popular. Huh. Gotcha. And no, the Savage 1895/1899/99 didn't make it to 1.5 million sales. So apparently there's no market for 99's, and the average sale price of $1000 or more that I saw in Tulsa for 99's is apparently that high because... nobody wants them. Gotcha. Only cheaper items sold en masse are "popular". 1955 - Marlin 336's sold from $69 to $100 (deluxe), Savage 99's sold from $105 to $110. Gee, what a shock that 33% cheaper guns sold better. I guess Savage Axis rifles are more popular than Kimbers nowadays.
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