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I really don't care how much the wealthy pay in taxes. I care about how much I pay in taxes, which is too damn much. And it always goes up regardless of which party is in office.
Spare me the worn out talking points. This discussion is the usual "You have more than me and it's not fair". Wealth envy drives class warfare. The neosocialists are playing by the same old tired (and failed) playbook - take from the productive, retain power over the masses, and keep everyone on the government plantation. Regardless of how much money the democrats take from the productive, they will continue their deficit spending spree.
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Rather than worrying about taxing rich people out of existence, you’d be better served working on getting rich so you don’t have to pay taxes either. Envy is an ugly look.
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WTF Chuck.... can't you do something positive for society, instead of gracing the campfire with your leftist stupidity?
Like how about going down to the street corner and just get hit by a bus, for example.
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My wish would be that for every $10k of federal income tax you pay above the first $10k, you get an extra vote. We have too many freeloaders in this country who have no stake in seeing a shrinking government, only larger and larger.
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My wish would be that for every $10k of federal income tax you pay above the first $10k, you get an extra vote. We have too many freeloaders in this country who have no stake in seeing a shrinking government, only larger and larger. Remove the vote from those who pay no taxes. After we stop paying those who pay no taxes refunds on their taxes.
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Friends, do not get upset. By wealthy he means those with $50,000,000 or more in assets, not a personal attack for vast majority of you.
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Friends, do not get upset. By wealthy he means those with $50,000,000 or more in assets, not a personal attack for vast majority of you. GFY! I don’t think your post is accurate, but let’s pretend it is. I’d no rather see my fellow country man get screwed than to get screwed myself. If you do not believe the same, you should find another country. Now!
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Friends, do not get upset. By wealthy he means those with $50,000,000 or more in assets, not a personal attack for vast majority of you. You sure that's what he means. Must be nice to read minds.
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why treat with trolls and fools? They are playing y'all like a violin, and you always dance to their tune.
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There is nothing wrong with prosperity and wealth, people should do well in their businesses, trades and professions, yet excessive concentrations of wealth in a small percentage of the population can cause problems.
If, for example, 1% of the population holds 90% of the wealth, that situation is not necessarily good for the economy or society.
And no, I am not a communist.
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If they started taxing debt the super rich would start to pay a lot but then the government would go bankrupt.
Quando omni flunkus moritati
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Friends, do not get upset. By wealthy he means those with $50,000,000 or more in assets, not a personal attack for vast majority of you. GFY! I don’t think your post is accurate, but let’s pretend it is. I’d no rather see my fellow country man get screwed than to get screwed myself. If you do not believe the same, you should find another country. Now! I like the way you think and your honesty. I say, fück them. The goal should be to pay smallest amount possible allowed by laws and regulations. That is the capitalist spirit.
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There is nothing wrong with prosperity and wealth, people should do well in their businesses, trades and professions, yet excessive concentrations of wealth in a small percentage of the population can cause problems.
If, for example, 1% of the population holds 90% of the wealth, that situation is not necessarily good for the economy or society.
And no, I am not a communist. What would you propose as a solution?
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There is nothing wrong with prosperity and wealth, people should do well in their businesses, trades and professions, yet excessive concentrations of wealth in a small percentage of the population can cause problems.
If, for example, 1% of the population holds 90% of the wealth, that situation is not necessarily good for the economy or society.
And no, I am not a communist. And there is the rub You are 100% right on the top getting richer. And that's bad for the nation across the board. In many ways. But, it's also a natural progression of capitalism, And finding a way to limit it, without squelching investment, innovation, or ambition(that benefits society), is not easy. Even just as theory.
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There is nothing wrong with prosperity and wealth, people should do well in their businesses, trades and professions, yet excessive concentrations of wealth in a small percentage of the population can cause problems.
If, for example, 1% of the population holds 90% of the wealth, that situation is not necessarily good for the economy or society.
And no, I am not a communist. And there is the rub You are 100% right on the top getting richer. And that's bad for the nation across the board. In many ways. But, it's also a natural progression of capitalism, And finding a way to limit it, without squelching investment, innovation, or ambition(that benefits society), is not easy. Even just as theory. The rich getting richer is a natural by product of capitalism.... where it goes of the rails is when they hire lobbyist and use wealth to further an ideology... i.e. George Soros, Mark Zuckerberg etc....
Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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There is nothing wrong with prosperity and wealth, people should do well in their businesses, trades and professions, yet excessive concentrations of wealth in a small percentage of the population can cause problems.
If, for example, 1% of the population holds 90% of the wealth, that situation is not necessarily good for the economy or society.
And no, I am not a communist. What would you propose as a solution? Given human nature, there may not be a solution. Business as usual.
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what would you propose as a solution? Enforce the antitrust laws that we already have on the books. Re-establish an actual free market instead of continuing to participate in a corrupt crony-capitalist system that's tied into politics by taking the cash transactions out of lobbying and imposing term limits on elected officials and unelected bureaucrats alike. Abolish the Fed. Abolish the IMF. Revoke the tax-exempt status of for-profit foundations (because that's what they are - think Gates). Prosecute the offshoreing of assets to avoid tax liability. Vote more conscientiously with our dollars. Have integrity and demand it of others, especially those with whom you do business. Stop buying their crap, literally and figuratively. For a start.
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