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Looking at puffy pants. I've looked at about every major hunting and non-hunting brand and several generic varieties. I think I have it narrowed to FL Uncompaghre, Kifaru Lost Park, and Kuiu Super Down Pro. Both the Kifaru and FL have 100 grams/3.5 oz per sq m of their respective insulation. Kuiu has 3.2 oz of 850 fill down. All seem to be relatively "durable" at least as much as ripstop can be. I think the Kuiu would be the warmest. All have full side zips.
I'd be lying if I wasnt concerned with down becoming wet and/or all over when I put a hole in them. I have no puffy clothing without at least 1 Tenacious Tape patch. With that said, I'm leaning synthetic - but wonder how warm they will be with 100 gr/sq m of insulation. The primary purpose is glassing and treestand sitting when temps drop below 30. As an extra tidbit, I tend to run cold.
What say you guys? I'm interested in warmth, durability, sizing.
Thanks in advance.
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I have the FLs.
They aren't terribly warm imho. They work "okay"... but if you're looking for maximum warmth I'd look elsewhere.
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I can't specifically speak to puffy pants, but I'd be a little leery of down pants, especially where there is high humidity and rain/wet snow. I've talked to a number of (younger) guys into adventure sports and they like Primaloft for a lot of their clothing where wet is going to be a given. I sure like my Primaloft jacket. It dries faster than even a lot of the earlier synthetics and it's warmth to weight ratio surprised me.
I do have a treated down KUIU sleeping bag on the recommendation of those same younger, world traveling friends, but a sleep bag requirements are different than pants.
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Don’t overlook Feathered friends or the Stone glacier pants either. I just picked up a pair of the Black Ovis pants but haven’t used them yet. Montana wasn’t cold enough🤔.
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The Lost Park pants are warmer and tougher than the first lites.
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I only wear my Kuius when glassing. Hike in, dry off, put on, glass, take off before moving again. They work well IME...
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Don’t overlook Feathered friends or the Stone glacier pants either. I just picked up a pair of the Black Ovis pants but haven’t used them yet. Montana wasn’t cold enough🤔. The thing about the SG Grummon is the 15d shell. That seems really light to me.
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I only wear my Kuius when glassing. Hike in, dry off, put on, glass, take off before moving again. They work well IME... That is exactly my plan. I cant imagine climbing 1500 feet over 1-3 miles with puffy pants on. Maybe in Antartica......
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Don’t overlook Feathered friends or the Stone glacier pants either. I just picked up a pair of the Black Ovis pants but haven’t used them yet. Montana wasn’t cold enough🤔. The thing about the SG Grummon is the 15d shell. That seems really light to me. That’s definitely thin and a concern also. I’m pretty impressed with the black Ovis pants especially for the price. I planned to use them just for glassing like Greg stated also.
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How far are you packing them?
If I’m not going far, or packability/weight isn’t a huge concern, I love my level 7 ECWCS.
They won’t be beat for warmth, can be found pretty inexpensive, and are pretty tough.
I still might grab the lost park pants for when I’m trekking a long ways and packing meat out.
The military pants are warm enough, even for all day sits in the 20s, I wear nothing but Eddie Bauer guide pants under them.
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I still might grab the lost park pants for when I’m trekking a long ways and packing meat out. Too warm for that, but good for sitting.....
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I still might grab the lost park pants for when I’m trekking a long ways and packing meat out. Too warm for that, but good for sitting..... Yea, meant for sitting when I get there and I don't have room for the military ones.
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Kuiu. Both the jacket and pants remain in my pack year round. Great for sitting. Way too hot for walking though. I also use them to extend the temp range of my quilt. That usually only lasts about thirty minutes before it gets overly warm.
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I have patagonia and integral designs puffy pants (and jackets I guess) . The id pants have fleece lined pockets, which is 100% money when you're freezing.
That being said, if thinking about puffys id be thinking kifaru, and they are on sale right now.
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I have patagonia and integral designs puffy pants (and jackets I guess) . The id pants have fleece lined pockets, which is 100% money when you're freezing.
That being said, if thinking about puffys id be thinking kifaru, and they are on sale right now. They are on sale and have been sold out since last week ☹
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I have Mt. Hardware compressor synthetics and Western Mountaineering flight down pants. Both have full side zips which are essential for me. I only use them for glassing or calling, never when moving. The down pants are warmer but cost more than twice as much as the synthetic, both are well made. If you are going to sit for an hour or more in real cold and wind I would go with the best down you can buy. The WM's cost $300.00 but are superb.
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