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I wonder if crime/ thefts went down in the neighborhood after Arbery was shot?...Wouldn't that tell if they got the right guy or not?

My little hometown in Texas used to be a great place to live...Never had to worry about locking your doors, etc. Now you have to chain down everything you own to keep the meth heads from walking off with it, even in broad daylight. If this little Georgia town is like that, I can understand why these guys would be frustrated enough to go after Arbery. Probably sick of themselves and their neighbors losing everything they own...


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Originally Posted by heavywalker
Everybody knows you can't chase a f ugging guy down and kill him because he was jogging and you suspected he was a burglar. Guys got what they deserved, guilty.

Now the moron that advised them to have all their cases tried together needs their heads examined.



I can see your point when you are devoid of the facts and believe everything the media told you to believe. Unfortunately, that is not what happened and the jury and Defense fuched it all up.

In regards to trying the cases together, I totally agree that was a massive miscalculation. But Roddie Bryan paid the biggest price for that so I'm not crying much for him. He's a fuching moron of note and deserves to be the head prison bitch for the rest of his life. They're going to be lovein on him for long time.

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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by GreatWaputi

Does it matter?

It does. He was reasonably believed to be the burglar that had been plaguing the neighborhood. Citizens are permitted to detain for the police those reasonably believed to be burglars, and citizens may be armed while doing so. If you are a burglar, you should expect to be confronted by armed citizens. Or at least that is the case in any sane society.


Name the state in which the laws apply as you stated....




OK, Georgia (before they changed the law as a result of this case.)


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by GreatWaputi

Does it matter?

It does. He was reasonably believed to be the burglar that had been plaguing the neighborhood. Citizens are permitted to detain for the police those reasonably believed to be burglars, and citizens may be armed while doing so. If you are a burglar, you should expect to be confronted by armed citizens. Or at least that is the case in any sane society.

Reasonably believed or were guessing?

Had a burglary just occurred immediately prior to this incident?

I read today that GA law does not allow forced detention citizen arrest. I guess they have to agree to be detained?

Had these men previously ID’d the jogger and knew his rap sheet or was that after the fact?



I haven’t followed this trial much.


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Ironbender read the post above yours .


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Originally Posted by hookeye
From the stuff I read a while back, they tried to stop him.
No shots, no pointing gun at him and were of some distance.

Arbery chose to engage an armed person.



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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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From the stuff I read a while back, they tried to stop him.
No shots, no pointing gun at him and were of some distance.

Arbery chose to engage an armed person.



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Ran out of cogent arguments, huh? Now enters name calling. I'm anything but left of far right, and you ran out of foolish assertions.


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Originally Posted by Bwana_1
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Trespassing is evidence of a crime.


Then I've got a bunch of hunters to shoot this year, based on your "logic".

You twist facts the way the MSM did with the Rittenhouse case, i.e., we were told Rittenhouse ran around shooting people. No, he possessed a shotgun, and was himself attacked by Arbery, resulting in a struggle for possession, during which struggle Arbery was shot.

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Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by Bwana_1
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Trespassing is evidence of a crime.
Then I've got a bunch of hunters to shoot this year, based on your "logic".
You dumbasses won't give it up, will you? Arbury didn't get shot until he tried to wrestle away a weapon.

Are you really that stupid or are you just an [bleep]?

Some of us recognize that when a bunch of people in motor vehicles brandishing firearms have been chasing a person on foot across town for several minutes. Cursing, screaming, and threatening said person. Any reasonable person would recognize that as an attack.

Upon being run to the point of exhaustion by motorists, one of those motorists jumps out brandishing his shotgun to further his ATTACK.

Any reasonable person being attacked in this manner, after being run to the point of exhaustion, would know. He can either turn his back and try to walk away, and be shot in the back. Or he could attempt to fight back and possibly die as a result.

Most of the posters on this forum CLAIM they would fight back to their last breath in such a situation.

Is there any here who would claim that Arbery was not under attack????

Just like Kyle Rittenhouse was under attack????

Yeah, the guys attacking Kyle thought they were justified in their actions as well.

Justice has been properly served in both cases, except for the fact that Kyle should have never been arrested, nor should he have been faced with a trial.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Bwana_1
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Trespassing is evidence of a crime.


Then I've got a bunch of hunters to shoot this year, based on your "logic".

You twist facts the way the MSM did with the Rittenhouse case, i.e., we were told Rittenhouse ran around shooting people. No, he possessed a shotgun, and was himself attacked by Arbery, resulting in a struggle for possession, during which struggle Arbery was shot.


LOL, talk about twisting the facts. "McMichael was attacked by Arbery." Yes he was, but you conveniently left out the part where he was running away and being chased down and detained by a non-LEO.



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Originally Posted by Bwana_1
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Trespassing is evidence of a crime.


Then I've got a bunch of hunters to shoot this year, based on your "logic".


Well in actuality’s trespassing can be evidence of a crime, 2 years ago I damn near shot one.
Crime coming into my yard (trespassing) and taking a big ole dooker, really pizzed me off. Village has a leash ordinance, he wasn’t on one, so being really tired of this trespasser sh*ting on my lawn also not wanting to be demonized as the guy who shot poor innocent woofy, I called the sheriff and reported poor woofy had acted aggressively on my property and I damn near shot him and would next time.
Sheriff talks to poor innocent woofy’s owners.
Poor ole woofy never trespassed again, always on a leash or chain, piles of dog sh*t disappeared.

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True story.

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Originally Posted by STRSWilson
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by GreatWaputi

Does it matter?

It does. He was reasonably believed to be the burglar that had been plaguing the neighborhood. Citizens are permitted to detain for the police those reasonably believed to be burglars, and citizens may be armed while doing so. If you are a burglar, you should expect to be confronted by armed citizens. Or at least that is the case in any sane society.


Name the state in which the laws apply as you stated....




OK, Georgia (before they changed the law as a result of this case.)


Two years ago, Georgia law allowed any citizen to stop at gunpoint any other citizen whom they might suspect was guilty of a crime at some date in the past???????

Felony? Misdemeanor? Vague suspicion? Sure and certain knowledge? Observation?

None of that mattered?


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Originally Posted by Valsdad
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Guilty

For sure?

I had a feeling it would go that way.


You think? They could not possibly be more guilty.

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Bottom line - the jury heard the States case, they also heard the defense rebuttal...........

And in short order, 2 1/2 days, they came to a verdict..............

I didn't watch the trail........... for those that did, was the Felony identified that Arbery was attempting to escape from????


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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by STRSWilson
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by GreatWaputi

Does it matter?

It does. He was reasonably believed to be the burglar that had been plaguing the neighborhood. Citizens are permitted to detain for the police those reasonably believed to be burglars, and citizens may be armed while doing so. If you are a burglar, you should expect to be confronted by armed citizens. Or at least that is the case in any sane society.


Name the state in which the laws apply as you stated....




OK, Georgia (before they changed the law as a result of this case.)


Two years ago, Georgia law allowed any citizen to stop at gunpoint any other citizen whom they might suspect was guilty of a crime at some date in the past???????

Felony? Misdemeanor? Vague suspicion? Sure and certain knowledge? Observation?

None of that mattered?


You have to witness the crime, see it in action....suspicion or guesses won't hold up in court. What was the first thing the guy said in the 911 call ?.... "operator" what do you have to report ?'......"Idiot" there's a black guy running through our neighborhood.

Did any of you actually watch the trial and listen to recording and see the video ?

lol

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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter

Two years ago, Georgia law allowed any citizen to stop at gunpoint any other citizen whom they might suspect was guilty of a crime at some date in the past???????

There you go making up false facts again. No one pointed a gun at anyone till the gun was grabbed and a struggle for it ensued.

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Local known thief just got popped by another local known thief. One dead, one going to prison for murder.

Two w one stone kinda deal.

Doesnt happen often enough.

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Brandishing Hawkeye, Brandishing.

Most states have a legal definition, of which I am quite assured you are aware.


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just for perspective:

Trespass with a weapon in Georgia is a misdemeanor.

As is pointing a weapon at someone..............

GA citizens arrest Law applies to those that are attempting to evade a Felony...............


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