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...they emphatically do not want people shooting from them because they do have twists and turns and there is a strong possibility of inadvertantly shooting over a loop in the trail with horrible potential consequences.
Gotta wonder how another 10 feet or X feet, would reduce that potential. I'm just sayin'...
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
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If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
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as long as it doesn't become "viral"
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As Mackay rightly said, turning the thread into a law enforcement bash isn't the right direction.
One ticket-happy LEO here is fond of writing tickets of the most nit-picky sort, and often when the illegality of the act is tenuous at best. His words: It may not be illegal, but it should be, and if they want to fight it the judge can decide.
Overzealous ticket writing is not that unusual in Alaska, and I think questioning the wisdom of publicly posting the video was well-intentioned. I have known Mackay for a few years, he is good people... I wish we had more LEOs like him.
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DaveH If you viewed it previously it can most likely be retrieved... art
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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Story from the hunter. I got a call that this thread was rolling about my hunt and have read through it with pride, concern, sheer amazement at some folks, and a little bit of anger.
The hunt was not in Eureka (we were moose hunting and I don't think I qualify) and was on four wheelers within 6 hours of Anchorage. This was my first hunt not on foot. The trail in question is just that - a trail and it did seem pretty packed down once you got in there. I would never have posted this on another forum had I beleived I had done anything against the law. I moved off the trail to shoot and the fact my boot might have been near the trail is questionable. My removal of the video isn't an admissions of doing anything wrong, just don't need the headaches of a bunch of folks up in arms over the legal killing of a bear.
For those interested in the hunt, the bear was shot with a right handed rifle - 300 wby - by a lefty (me), I appreciate the compliments on the quick shooting but will admit I was a bit pumped and wanted to make sure it was down. The bear was a dry sow (no cubs)and had extremely worn teeth so she will probably be old when aged.
I have killed numerous bears and this is the first time we got one on video so the posting on another forum (of whom I respect all the members so I posted the video for their enjoyment - I don't normally advertise all my kills) was my showing a quality hunt with quality home video.
On a final note we were buzzed by the troopers the first night and checked out in the field the following day by an officer - my second time ever nice to have the brown shirts back. He saw the carcass near our camp, my bear, and wished us nothing but congratulations on a job well done. He did have a pretty mean looking assult rifle on his back.
That said I do appreciate everyone's concern and it probably is best the video is down so there can be no interpretation of what was legal by anyone.
I hope you enjoyed me enhancing your next moose hunt.
Gooch
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IMHO your boot was beyond the white rock that was by the trail I do not believe that your foot was on the trail. I would like to congradulate you on your Bear.....
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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plus 1! Congrats. on your bear, Gooch.
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Gooch- Welcome to the fire. Congrats on a nice bear!
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Gooch,
Thanks for the clarification and I sure enjoyed the video. Nice shooting too!
Sounds like AK's state troopers are worse than our game wardens in the the crappy people's republic!
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Gooch
Damn nice bear!!
Jeff
Oh yeah, thanks for thinning the predator pool too! A reproducing one on top of that!
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On the moose tine thing.... that one should have been somewhat obvious, isn't it in the book, tine is measured down the middle on the outside of any curve basically. Not down an edge where you gain length, just like the score books do.
Now I would have hoped had it been that close leeway would be given, I've heard our local wardens confess that they are supposed to give at least half an inch on fish etc...
That also being said I know an ass of one that gave a ticket to a buck that was already mounted, half an inch shy of the spread requirement, even though as a taxidermist I can prove they often shrink an inch or more in spread as they dry....
Common sense, again, it seems to be out the window.....
Did have to warn some folks about taking pictures of a somewhat questionable act this spring.... no big deal in my books but I wouldn't have had pictures of it...
Regards, Jeff
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Gooch, Did ya show the Trooper the video?
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Holy chit storm! Didn't mean to stir a hornets nest from a video clip I thought you all would enjoy over here, my bad I guess. I thought it was pretty cool that they got it on video and it would be enjoyed here, never meant for it to be scrutinized to death. Though this is a tough crowd, shoulda guessed as much. Sorry Gooch.
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You overstate your role...
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Holy chit storm! Didn't mean to stir a hornets nest from a video clip I thought you all would enjoy over here, my bad I guess. I thought it was pretty cool that they got it on video and it would be enjoyed here, never meant for it to be scrutinized to death. Though this is a tough crowd, shoulda guessed as much. Sorry Gooch. This type of discussion may help with educating hunters as well as bringing accountability or consistency to some law enforcement folks. I'm not bashing LEO's. A close friend was a brown shirt until he died in a plane crash near Illiama. There are three components that to compliance. Engineering, Education and Enforcement. Some LEO's really don't want to educate without writing a ticket. That said I believe 95% law dogs in the field would not make an issue of this vid. This hunter, in this situation, was ethical and did a fine job in harvesting the bear. IMHO
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Ironbender,
I stand corrected after reading the followup post. I think we may think more along the same lines than previously thought. Yep, there are Troops out there that are an embarassment to the rest of us. It also seems that sometimes to get them out of the field they get promoted.
I am still in my thirties but I guess I must think like an old man. I prefer to look at the laws as guidelines and not absolutes. Understanding basic human nature and recognizing the good and bad in people goes a long ways in making more common sense decisions. The "treat people like a neighbor until they get violent or stupid" philosophy has served me well. It has even saved my butt a couple of times.
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