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Originally Posted by jwp475
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Once the homeowner shot into the ground the dad didn't have much choice. Would you walk away knowing he wouldn't shoot you in the back? The little fella came out with a gun and planned to use it, seems obvious given his demeanor after the shoot. No first aid rendered, etc.


First aid has nothing to do with this. Yeah I would have left. Little to no legal ground being at someone else's residence.


Dude comes at me with a gun and shoots into the ground at my feet I'm not letting him shoot me in the back. YMMV

I didn't mean he had a duty to render first aid necessarily, but his casual demeanor and the fact NO ONE went over to check vitals is creepy as [bleep].


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Originally Posted by antlers
What the family court system has systematically and by design done to this country is probably the worst thing that has ever been done to the people of this country.


And nobody ever wants to talk about fixing it.


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My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Originally Posted by steve4102
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What caliber rifle was that? Was it 9mm? .45 ACP? Whatever it was, it was pretty damned effective. The dead man was dead right there from one shot, or so it appeared.

Some are reporting Two shots , not including the warning shot.


Steve one time I watched the video on another site I thought I heard a double tap. But on the link video it sounds like 1. IDK


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Well it’s a good Got Damn thing the dead guy wasn’t black.

The retail outlets in Portland, Seattle and Chicago just got done replacing their glass and restocking the shelves with Nikes and TVs

Maybe tomorrow will bring them a justifiable excuse.


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Originally Posted by MadMooner
Little fella stood there all puffed up next to his kill.

Kinda sad and funny all at once.

Lot of stupid on display there.



Big guy got all 'Puffed Up' BEFORE the shot.....................


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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by antlers
What the family court system has systematically and by design done to this country is probably the worst thing that has ever been done to the people of this country.


And nobody ever wants to talk about fixing it.


Love your wife, stay at home, make it work. Like millions of families do.


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What a mess,

The father was pissed at her and the delay of seeing his Son,

Tempers and emotions were off the charts,

The Son lost his father at the front step of the house he lives in..

I don't care about any laws that may apply,

The Father was unnecessarily murdered.

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Play stupid games - Win stupid prizes.


As soon as the victim got muzzled - he has two choices.

1. Leave and file charges.
2. Cold-cock the MF.




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Is it me or does say these things usually turn out bad for you?


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Originally Posted by Kenneth
What a mess,

The father was pissed at her and the delay of seeing his Son,

Tempers and emotions were off the charts,

The Son lost his father at the front step of the house he lives in..

I don't care about any laws that may apply,

The Father was unnecessarily murdered.

I think it was a preplanned murder and that's why the kids aren't there.


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Wait, were the two boys in the house when their father was getting himself killed on the front porch?

That's gotta suck for them.

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Hmmm,

Wife deliberately withholds children from father past court mandated pick-up time.

At boyfriends house.

Augment ensues , predictable argument.

Boyfriend jumps into a preplanned domestic dispute.

Ex- husband already triggered, tells weasel boyfriend to buzz off,

Boyfriend goes into house , comes out with a firearm in order to deescalate this preplanned domestic argument

Ex husband dies at the hands of boyfriend.

Ex-wife’s custody problems solved.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
What caliber rifle was that? Was it 9mm? .45 ACP? Whatever it was, it was pretty damned effective. The dead man was dead right there from one shot, or so it appeared.


Unless it is a cns (which is not the case he went to his knees hunched over with his own power), dude just gave up. Humans can go just like a whitetail if they have it in their mind. Cns, or lose of blood causing the brain to shut down. That’s it, we’ll with the exception of the duck shot, breaking the pelvis. I’d give up after that too.

I learnt all my shut from watching movies. You know Eli’s from platoon takes a [bleep] load of 7.62 and keeps running to the chopper.



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Originally Posted by 19352012
Originally Posted by Kenneth
What a mess,

The father was pissed at her and the delay of seeing his Son,

Tempers and emotions were off the charts,

The Son lost his father at the front step of the house he lives in..

I don't care about any laws that may apply,

The Father was unnecessarily murdered.

I think it was a preplanned murder and that's why the kids aren't there.


I agree. Nothing there seemed accidental, and the little banty rooster didn't seem worked up before or after the shooting.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
What caliber rifle was that? Was it 9mm? .45 ACP? Whatever it was, it was pretty damned effective. The dead man was dead right there from one shot, or so it appeared.



Looks like a Ruger PC 9mm carbine.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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Was that one of the new Ruger PC carbines?

I believe it was. Just don't know the caliber.


I believe it was too, Ruger makes a silly (IMHO) version of the PC carbine with a tubular aluminum barrel shroud instead of a regular forearm. Looks like all the current shrouded barrel options are in 9mm. The regular-foreend model also comes in .40 S&W.

https://ruger.com/products/pcCarbine/models.html

Regardless of caliber, the way the shot guy was DRT was reminscent of the recent videos of athletes dropping from heart failure, I'm wondering if it was a heart shot.

IMHO it was a good shoot according to the letter (if not the intent) of the law.

I believe the County DA recused themselves and it has been referred to the State, political pressure and publicity may lead to charges filed.




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It doesn't matter if it is a cop, drug dealer, crack head or an 8 year old child, you don't charge anyone who has a gun. See the Rittenhouse, Arberry and various other videos. It never ends well. The universal law is that if someone points a gun at you, you immediately cease whatever it was that you were doing and become very passive very quickly until the odds become in your favor.


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Life is about choices.

1. Don't dump a load into a biatch you don't want to spend the rest of your life with (or a whore)
2. Don't go over to someone else's house and threaten them
3. Check the ego when a gun comes out
4. After you blast someone, exercise your 5th amendment rights.

So on and so forth...

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Terrible deal, no matter. Everyone is dealing with "feelings", doesn't matter. What does the "Law" say? I personally "feel" it could have been de-escalated, but that's just how "I feel", I wasn't 'there". Sad.

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Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
What caliber rifle was that? Was it 9mm? .45 ACP? Whatever it was, it was pretty damned effective. The dead man was dead right there from one shot, or so it appeared.



Looks like a Ruger PC 9mm carbine.


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