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When I was looking for a light weight J-frame, I didn't need to read too many reviews of the Scandium frame .357 Magnum 340/360 S&W's to see that guys shooting magnums regarded it as a 2" barreled flame thrower or "Like a bomb going off in your hand" is how one guy described it. .38 +P is all that my 12 ounce 337PD will handle and that is even high end enough to hang on to. If I did want to shoot it more often, I'd look for larger grips. Yep. Larger grips help tame recoil a bit.
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+P aint bad in a Scandium.
That Corbon .357 mag though..............yowza.
Beyond annoying blast wise.
Recoil is stiff, I get bonked on trigger finger some.
Don't shoot my buds enough to master the technique.
I wouldn't change grips, for me the idea is to keep it small.
Still want one, but w my P365 I may never get the wicked J.
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I love my blackhawks.
My brother got my late fathers 3 screw blackhawk a couple years ago. Then last month my uncle says he has one just like it that he bought at the same store that my dad got his from. Now my brother and I have three screws that are 5000 apart in serial number.
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For deer, in a rifle barrel, they are deadly..........and far more effective than many might imagine. 2050 with 158 loads.........
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I'll also give a nod to the S&W Highway Patrolman, the second 357 I bought back when they were $250 all day long. Yep, I picked up a nice clean one of those at a gun show way back when, too. Wish I never sold it. So dumb. O yes! Bought for 270 Euros, sold for 440 Euro a few years later. I think I should no longer hesitate to contact the buyer if he still has the gun.... ![[Linked Image]](https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/gallery/80/full/171324.jpg) Nice. That's about what mine looked like. A real sweetie to shoot. The hottest Magnum loads felt, recoil-wise, like shooting a K-Frame .38. How many handguns does Germany allow you to own at one time? Thank you! As a hunter or target shooter: two. But as a target shoot you may broaden your requirement by proofing an additional interest which must be confirmed by the parent organization of the shooting club your are a member of. Being a little bit mor dexterous four or five are no problem when you combine the hunters licence with a full memebership in a shooting club. With a collector's licence which is hard to obtain you can collect as many handguns you want if you stay within the limits of your topic e. g. German police and military handguns from 1871 to 1945.
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For deer, in a rifle barrel, they are deadly..........and far more effective than many might imagine. 2050 with 158 loads......... This is another thing I really like about the .357. In a lever action or bolt action it's a light weight and compact package with decent range, decent capacity, can be a big jump in velocity, and is a really easy on the shoulders/ears. A lever action 357 can put a lot of rounds downrange very quick. It's not an AR but it's a very effective weapon. Rifle and revolver using the same ammo is nice.
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.357 Mag is probably a better carbine cartridge than it is a handgun cartridge. And its a damned decent handgun cartridge.
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I'll also give a nod to the S&W Highway Patrolman, the second 357 I bought back when they were $250 all day long. Yep, I picked up a nice clean one of those at a gun show way back when, too. Wish I never sold it. So dumb. O yes! Bought for 270 Euros, sold for 440 Euro a few years later. I think I should no longer hesitate to contact the buyer if he still has the gun.... Nice. That's about what mine looked like. A real sweetie to shoot. The hottest Magnum loads felt, recoil-wise, like shooting a K-Frame .38. How many handguns does Germany allow you to own at one time? Thank you! As a hunter or target shooter: two. But as a target shoot you may broaden your requirement by proofing an additional interest which must be confirmed by the parent organization of the shooting club your are a member of. Being a little bit mor dexterous four or five are no problem when you combine the hunters licence with a full memebership in a shooting club. With a collector's licence which is hard to obtain you can collect as many handguns you want if you stay within the limits of your topic e. g. German police and military handguns from 1871 to 1945. Looks like you have to be quite ingenuitive to have much of a handgun collection there.
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+P aint bad in a Scandium.
That Corbon .357 mag though..............yowza.
Beyond annoying blast wise.
Recoil is stiff, I get bonked on trigger finger some.
Don't shoot my buds enough to master the technique.
I wouldn't change grips, for me the idea is to keep it small.
Still want one, but w my P365 I may never get the wicked J.
I ran those Corbons for a while in my 642. And you are right. They are a handful. I've run through 2 or 3 other self defense loads and have currently settled on 158 gr hard casts.
Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want. Rehabilitation is way overrated. Orwell wasn't wrong. GOA member disappointed NRA member 24HCF SEARCH
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JMC and GG - agreed.
Folks would be surprised to watch the 2 liter bottles blow up at 150 yds, offhand, either open sights or peep, can't recall, shot both as well as a 2.5x scope. A red dot might be sweet. Those bottles looked like a hi-vel rifle hit them......destroyed them! All I can say, I don't know much that would take a hit to 150 yds, thru the lungs and survive.
All that said, I was thinking the new 350 Legend might be a thought for a rifle round.......perhaps closer to the 'Maximum?'
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Most useful guns I own are 357. Most used are 9mm. Most liked is 44.
I've killed more deer with the 357 but that was due to opportunity more than plan.
Downers:. Loud. Energy level.
Upper:. Cost, weight, variety
My Contender 357 is my most accurate center-fire.
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My wife carries a S&W 327 TTR8 around the house and barn, and when we head into the mountains, her Marlin 1894 comes along as well. The 158 grain XTP's work well in both, 1275 fps in the Smith and over 1850 fps in the lever gun. One cartridge in both guns.
I do the same but in 45 Colt.
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My wife carries a S&W 327 TTR8 around the house and barn, and when we head into the mountains, her Marlin 1894 comes along as well. The 158 grain XTP's work well in both, 1275 fps in the Smith and over 1850 fps in the lever gun. One cartridge in both guns.
I do the same but in 45 Colt.
Manny I've always thought the S&W 327 5" models were about as good of a design as a combat revolver could be.
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I want to a single action revolver for occasionally plinking. The 45 Colt was the obvious choice, but now I might consider the 38/357.
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My wife carries a S&W 327 TTR8 around the house and barn, and when we head into the mountains, her Marlin 1894 comes along as well. The 158 grain XTP's work well in both, 1275 fps in the Smith and over 1850 fps in the lever gun. One cartridge in both guns.
I do the same but in 45 Colt.
Manny I've always thought the S&W 327 5" models were about as good of a design as a combat revolver could be. Agreed. 8 shots, a rail, tuned action from the Performance Shop, enough barrel length for proper balance, which also gives more velocity, and with the frame and barrel shroud materials such as they are, comparatively light weight. Manny
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Love these pics. Been running 170 grain Keith wide nose hard cast SWCs through a press for the ammo company: ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/Guz6rPxl.jpg) for those who don't know btw: : https://www.lostriverammocompany.com/The heavy Keith 170 grain .357s are what my oldest kiddo carried when she was working as a cowboy/wrangler for an outfitter this past season. Carried in my 2.5" Model 19. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/wKjgE3bl.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/cNmIdgAl.jpg)
THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL. The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world. The website is up and running!www.lostriverammocompany.com
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Mackay_Sagebrush what mold is that 170?
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Mackay_Sagebrush what mold is that 170? Looks like the Lyman 358429, THE classic Keith .357 bullet.
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Mackay_Sagebrush what mold is that 170? Looks like the Lyman 358429, THE classic Keith .357 bullet. I’ve got 358429 but the MP looked wider in the pic. Maybe I am mistaken though.
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Mackay_Sagebrush what mold is that 170? Looks like the Lyman 358429, THE classic Keith .357 bullet. I’ve got 358429 but the MP looked wider in the pic. Maybe I am mistaken though. Sadly, that bullet is too long for some cylinders when used in .357 cases. Smith M27s and M28s, along with Colt Trooper (old style) or Pythons, all have cylinders that are too short for that bullet/case combination. They can be used in .38 cases, though, and will work, but the powder charges should be lowered accordingly. Smith K-frame .357s and L-frames have longer cylinders (go figure), and they work there. Rugers have always had long cylinders (except the early SP-101s). I don't know about any other makers, though.
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