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One thing that seems to be formed from this thread is that it is going to be hard to find a full jury that thinks the shooting was necessary when this thread full of gun guys is torn on the legality of this event. The jury will be asked to base this on a reasonable persons thoughts and concerns....
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One thing that seems to be formed from this thread is that it is going to be hard to find a full jury that thinks the shooting was necessary when this thread full of gun guys is torn on the legality of this event. The jury will be asked to base this on a reasonable persons thoughts and concerns.... This is going to be Lubbock, Texas
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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He will walk and when he does they can't sue him.
God bless Texas----------------------- Old 300 I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull Its not how you pick the booger.. but where you put it !! Roger V Hunter
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What the family court system has systematically and by design done to this country is probably the worst thing that has ever been done to the people of this country. It is actually pretty incredible how insane the courts really are. It isn't about the kids at all...
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$50 MILLION. LITTLE MAN is about to be a Broke Dick. And then Bubba’s Bitch when he gets to Prison. They can sue for $50M... But they won't get it. The tort reform caps severely limit wrongful death claims now. You can go in for an operation and the surgeon can cut your throat, and your family will only get $250k... as an example. Judge will look at the case and set the cap on damages. Much better to get severely injured where you require ongoing healthcare. Those can get up there in $$$.
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The jury will be asked to base this on a reasonable persons thoughts and concerns.... The jury will be asked to base this on a reasonable persons thoughts and concerns render a verdict on the testimony and evidence, and no more....
"He is far from Stupid"
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''it is going to be hard to find a full jury that thinks the shooting was necessary when this thread full of gun guys is torn on the legality of this event.''
--oakster
That is right. You just described a hung jury which means the little guy walks.
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Shooter is a land man, too. Listed as either Kyle carruths biz or the biz he works for. @ the address of the shooting. https://www.dnb.com/business-direct...lc.6d25085f809a2c2213469ae0f4b12899.html
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
American by birth; Alaskan by choice. --ironbender
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From that link:
Rep/Contact Info Kyle Carruth President
Phone: (806) 438-6336 Cell Phone: (806) 438-6336 Send an Email P.O. Box 15990 Lubbock Tx 79490
Christina Read Executive Assist.
Phone: (806) 438-6336 Send an Email P.O. Box 15990 Lubbock Tx 79490
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
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If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
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defense.” Carruth1 had played out this situation in his mind; he has talked about what he would do to Chad when speaking with others. Kyle Carruth was the aggressor, who needlessly escalated an otherwise nonviolent situation, leading to the wrongful death of Chad Wayne Read. That’s not good, if true.
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So, does this go from voluntary manslaughter to pre-meditated?
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According to the legal scholars here, you have to be physically attacked before you have a right to retrieve your gun.
That fact alone proves your Constitutional God given Right To Bear Arms is being infringed, and these closet commie idiot gun grabbers in this thread extolling he didn’t have a right to get his gun are traitors to the country, and have aligned themselves with the commies.
Freaking employees of Soroes here masquerading as outdoorsmen.
Wear your BROWN SHIRTS and keep GOOSE STEPPING girls.
Let me ask you idiots something, if Carruth had a concealed pistol on him, would he need to take that inside before asking Reid to remove himself from the property, so it wouldn’t be considered “escalating”? See how that question just proved you closet commies are fake outdoorsman here to push an agenda, Carruth had no right to bear arms?
You commie’s anti-gun right position also means anybody carrying open can not defend themselves against an idiot starting an argument out in public, because based on your positions, THE GUN ESCALATES IT. You can’t argue back, because your gun on your hip would escalate the situation according to you commie legal scholars.
Can’t go saddle and ride your property either to search for trespassers with your gun, because if you come across a hostile illegal alien crossing the border, why you’re “escalating” the situation.
RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS.
And these idiots attacking Carruth’s God given right is clearly being denied by these Low IQ idiot closet commies on here, masquerading as your brother patriots, while they post anti-gun subliminal messages and bring strawman arguments into this to spin the facts of the story.
Dumbazzes……..
Last edited by ElkSlayer91; 11/30/21.
"He is far from Stupid"
”person, who happens to have an above-average level of intelligence”
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^^^^^^
Little man syndrome,
😂
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you tell em elk sucker According to the legal scholars here, you have to be physically attacked before you have a right to retrieve your gun.
That fact alone proves your Constitutional God given Right To Bear Arms is being infringed, and these closet commie idiot gun grabbers in this thread extolling he didn’t have a right to get his gun are traitors to the country, and have aligned themselves with the commies.
Freaking employees of Soroes here masquerading as outdoorsmen.
Wear your BROWN SHIRTS and keep GOOSE STEPPING girls.
Let me ask you idiots something, if Carruth had a concealed pistol on him, would he need to take that inside before asking Reid to remove himself from the property, so it wouldn’t be considered “escalating”? See how that question just proved you closet commies are fake outdoorsman here to push an agenda, Carruth had no right to bear arms?
You commie’s anti-gun right position also means anybody carrying open can not defend themselves against an idiot starting an argument out in public, because based on your positions, THE GUN ESCALATES IT. You can’t argue back, because your gun on your hip would escalate the situation according to you commie legal scholars.
Can’t go saddle and ride your property either to search for trespassers with your gun, because if you come across a hostile illegal alien crossing the border, why you’re “escalating” the situation.
RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS.
And these idiots attacking Carruth’s God given right is clearly being denied by these Low IQ idiot closet commies on here, masquerading as your brother patriots, while they post anti-gun subliminal messages and bring strawman arguments into this to spin the facts of the story.
Dumbazzes……..
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^^^^^^
Little man syndrome, The truth BUUUUUUURNSSSSSSSSS.
"He is far from Stupid"
”person, who happens to have an above-average level of intelligence”
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^^^^^^
Little man syndrome, The truth BUUUUUUURNSSSSSSSSS. We’ll see, counselor. 🤣
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The jury will be asked to base this on a reasonable persons thoughts and concerns.... The jury will be asked to base this on a reasonable persons thoughts and concerns render a verdict on the testimony and evidence, and no more.... The jury also is required to accept the law in accordance with the jury charges given by the judge, which includes any charges accepted in Texas and could well involve the discussion of a reasonable person standard as a component of self-defense law. The jury cannot just listen to the testimony and evidence and filter it through whatever it thinks the law may be or should be.
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However much I’d like to legally just shoot dumb mother [bleep], I can’t.
Hopefully that changes sometime soon.
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