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One thing that seems to be formed from this thread is that it is going to be hard to find a full jury that thinks the shooting was necessary when this thread full of gun guys is torn on the legality of this event. The jury will be asked to base this on a reasonable persons thoughts and concerns....

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Originally Posted by Oakster
One thing that seems to be formed from this thread is that it is going to be hard to find a full jury that thinks the shooting was necessary when this thread full of gun guys is torn on the legality of this event. The jury will be asked to base this on a reasonable persons thoughts and concerns....


This is going to be Lubbock, Texas



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He will walk and when he does they can't sue him.


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What the family court system has systematically and by design done to this country is probably the worst thing that has ever been done to the people of this country.


It is actually pretty incredible how insane the courts really are. It isn't about the kids at all...

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Originally Posted by chlinstructor


$50 MILLION. LITTLE MAN is about to be a Broke Dick.
And then Bubba’s Bitch when he gets to Prison.



They can sue for $50M... But they won't get it.

The tort reform caps severely limit wrongful death claims now.

You can go in for an operation and the surgeon can cut your throat, and your family will only get $250k... as an example.

Judge will look at the case and set the cap on damages.

Much better to get severely injured where you require ongoing healthcare. Those can get up there in $$$.


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Originally Posted by Oakster
The jury will be asked to base this on a reasonable persons thoughts and concerns....

The jury will be asked to base this on a reasonable persons thoughts and concerns render a verdict on the testimony and evidence, and no more....


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''it is going to be hard to find a full jury that thinks the shooting was necessary when this thread full of gun guys is torn on the legality of this event.''

--oakster

That is right. You just described a hung jury which means the little guy walks.

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Who or what is Vitruvian Development LLC....?????

And what does it/they have to do with the shooting?


The ex whore / wife’s Business.

Evidently, that’s where the shooting took place.

Custody argument results in Texas man being shot to death, lawyer claims it was self-defense

https://www.foxnews.com/us/caught-on-cam-custody-argument-prior-to-texas-man-being-shot-to-death

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Shooter is a land man, too.

Listed as either Kyle carruths biz or the biz he works for. @ the address of the shooting.

https://www.dnb.com/business-direct...lc.6d25085f809a2c2213469ae0f4b12899.html


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From that link:

Rep/Contact Info
Kyle Carruth
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Phone: (806) 438-6336
Cell Phone: (806) 438-6336
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P.O. Box 15990 Lubbock Tx 79490



Christina Read
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defense.” Carruth1 had played out this situation in his mind; he has talked about what he would do to Chad when speaking with others. Kyle Carruth was the aggressor, who needlessly escalated an otherwise nonviolent situation, leading to the wrongful death of Chad Wayne Read.

That’s not good, if true.


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So, does this go from voluntary manslaughter to pre-meditated?


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According to the legal scholars here, you have to be physically attacked before you have a right to retrieve your gun.

That fact alone proves your Constitutional God given Right To Bear Arms is being infringed, and these closet commie idiot gun grabbers in this thread extolling he didn’t have a right to get his gun are traitors to the country, and have aligned themselves with the commies.

Freaking employees of Soroes here masquerading as outdoorsmen.

Wear your BROWN SHIRTS and keep GOOSE STEPPING girls.

Let me ask you idiots something, if Carruth had a concealed pistol on him, would he need to take that inside before asking Reid to remove himself from the property, so it wouldn’t be considered “escalating”? See how that question just proved you closet commies are fake outdoorsman here to push an agenda, Carruth had no right to bear arms?

You commie’s anti-gun right position also means anybody carrying open can not defend themselves against an idiot starting an argument out in public, because based on your positions, THE GUN ESCALATES IT. You can’t argue back, because your gun on your hip would escalate the situation according to you commie legal scholars.

Can’t go saddle and ride your property either to search for trespassers with your gun, because if you come across a hostile illegal alien crossing the border, why you’re “escalating” the situation.

RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS.

And these idiots attacking Carruth’s God given right is clearly being denied by these Low IQ idiot closet commies on here, masquerading as your brother patriots, while they post anti-gun subliminal messages and bring strawman arguments into this to spin the facts of the story.

Dumbazzes……..


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^^^^^^

Little man syndrome,

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Originally Posted by ElkSlayer91
According to the legal scholars here, you have to be physically attacked before you have a right to retrieve your gun.

That fact alone proves your Constitutional God given Right To Bear Arms is being infringed, and these closet commie idiot gun grabbers in this thread extolling he didn’t have a right to get his gun are traitors to the country, and have aligned themselves with the commies.

Freaking employees of Soroes here masquerading as outdoorsmen.

Wear your BROWN SHIRTS and keep GOOSE STEPPING girls.

Let me ask you idiots something, if Carruth had a concealed pistol on him, would he need to take that inside before asking Reid to remove himself from the property, so it wouldn’t be considered “escalating”? See how that question just proved you closet commies are fake outdoorsman here to push an agenda, Carruth had no right to bear arms?

You commie’s anti-gun right position also means anybody carrying open can not defend themselves against an idiot starting an argument out in public, because based on your positions, THE GUN ESCALATES IT. You can’t argue back, because your gun on your hip would escalate the situation according to you commie legal scholars.

Can’t go saddle and ride your property either to search for trespassers with your gun, because if you come across a hostile illegal alien crossing the border, why you’re “escalating” the situation.

RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS.

And these idiots attacking Carruth’s God given right is clearly being denied by these Low IQ idiot closet commies on here, masquerading as your brother patriots, while they post anti-gun subliminal messages and bring strawman arguments into this to spin the facts of the story.

Dumbazzes……..


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Originally Posted by SandBilly
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Little man syndrome,

The truth BUUUUUUURNSSSSSSSSS.


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Originally Posted by ElkSlayer91
Originally Posted by SandBilly
^^^^^^

Little man syndrome,

The truth BUUUUUUURNSSSSSSSSS.




We’ll see, counselor.

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Originally Posted by ElkSlayer91
Originally Posted by Oakster
The jury will be asked to base this on a reasonable persons thoughts and concerns....

The jury will be asked to base this on a reasonable persons thoughts and concerns render a verdict on the testimony and evidence, and no more....


The jury also is required to accept the law in accordance with the jury charges given by the judge, which includes any charges accepted in Texas and could well involve the discussion of a reasonable person standard as a component of self-defense law. The jury cannot just listen to the testimony and evidence and filter it through whatever it thinks the law may be or should be.


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However much I’d like to legally just shoot dumb mother [bleep], I can’t.

Hopefully that changes sometime soon.


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