|
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 2,629
Campfire Regular
|
OP
Campfire Regular
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 2,629 |
What is your choice for number of groves in a custom barrel?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 2,232
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 2,232 |
Lessee, the last barrel I bought for .30 was a 3 groove.
I'd planned for a steady diet of MV's well over 3000 fps and figured the extra steel in the lands would help with resisting the wear and tear...
Results? Dunno, no bore scope but to date groups are hangin' in there...
It's you and the bullet, and all the rest is secondary.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 795
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 795 |
I’m not an organ donor. I don’t believe in an afterlife, but I’d rather cover my bases in case there is and I need everything. You just never know.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,139
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,139 |
3 groove Lilja. But they all work
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,224 Likes: 2
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,224 Likes: 2 |
I have 4 groove Kriegers along with Obermyers and Rocks with 5. All shoot great. I have been told cut rifled barrels last longer.
Too close for irons, switching to scope...
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,983
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,983 |
I'd be more worried about quality of barrel and smiths skills putting it together than number of grooves.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,657
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,657 |
I guess opinions differ on this topic..........to me I WILL NEVER own another FHUQKING 3 groove as long as I live, there is no upside to a 3 groove only downside.
All my benchrest barrels are 4 groove but most of my rifles have 5 or 6 groove barrels
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 4,043
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 4,043 |
I guess opinions differ on this topic..........to me I WILL NEVER own another FHUQKING 3 groove as long as I live, there is no upside to a 3 groove only downside.
s What do you think the downside of three groove is?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14,518 Likes: 1
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14,518 Likes: 1 |
I've been very happy with anything between 4-6.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 8,852
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 8,852 |
I guess opinions differ on this topic..........to me I WILL NEVER own another FHUQKING 3 groove as long as I live, there is no upside to a 3 groove only downside.
s What do you think the downside of three groove is? Curious on this myself.
Adversity doesn't build character, it reveals it.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 237
Campfire Member
|
Campfire Member
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 237 |
I guess opinions differ on this topic..........to me I WILL NEVER own another FHUQKING 3 groove as long as I live, there is no upside to a 3 groove only downside.
All my benchrest barrels are 4 groove but most of my rifles have 5 or 6 groove barrels How many 3 groove barrels have you owned and in what calibers ? I am also interested in your Opinion regarding the downside to a 3 groove . Spell-check may have helped on that one cute word .
Last edited by chudly; 12/02/21.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 11,326
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 11,326 |
I would rather have 4 or 6 grove myself
I may not be smart but I can lift heavy objects
I have a shotgun so I have no need for a 30-06.....
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,983
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,983 |
I've got several 3G 17-20 cal barrels and they all shoot extremely well. I know for a fact a multi national champion 1000 yd BR shooter has a 3G barrel on his rifle as we speak and another good 1000BR shooter i know told me once that the worst barrel he ever had was a 5R. I've shot 3,4,5 and 6 all shoot for what my LR hunting intended purposes, like I said I'd worry more about quality and smith skills.
Last edited by sherm_61; 12/02/21.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 3,441
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 3,441 |
I've had and still have a number of three groove barrels on hunting/varmint rigs as well as my .30 cal Benchrest guns. In fact, they offer benefits in certain situations. Currently, my three grooves are in 22BR, 6BR (two) and .30 cals. from Lilja and PacNor. The two mediocre Benchrest barrels I've had were 4 and 5 groove...one button and one cut rifled from two different makers. Good shootin' -Al
Forbidden Zoner
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 17,527
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 17,527 |
4 groove Krieger for the win!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 4,043
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 4,043 |
I have two 3 groove barrels. one is a 7 mag by PacNor and the other is a Lilja 25-284. Both shoot as well as any other groove configuration. I don't necessarily think they have any more mojo but they do seem to clean easier.....
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 44,860 Likes: 4
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 44,860 Likes: 4 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,237
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,237 |
I just ask the 'smith if he has a preference anymore. I'm far from a benchrest shooter, so it would probably never matter, realistically, to my rifles and shooting ability.
I only use 2 smiths now, one being Shaen and the other local. Local smith is no fan of 5s for some reason, says he prefers 4 or 6...has built a lot of winning BR rifles.
I've had 2 custom barrels that didn't shoot to my liking, one being a 3 groove and the other a 5. Seriously doubt that had a thing to do with it though.
I personally don't even think about it anymore.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,657
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,657 |
I guess opinions differ on this topic..........to me I WILL NEVER own another FHUQKING 3 groove as long as I live, there is no upside to a 3 groove only downside.
All my benchrest barrels are 4 groove but most of my rifles have 5 or 6 groove barrels How many 3 groove barrels have you owned and in what calibers ? I am also interested in your Opinion regarding the downside to a 3 groove . Spell-check may have helped on that one cute word . I have owned 7 3 groove barrel's, 4 were 22 cal.....2 were 1-14"twist and 2 were 1-8"twist Had 2 6mm barrels both were 1-8" twist and one 338 barrel 1-10" twist All were Pac-Nor except the 338 barrel that is of unknown origin (built by Bill Shehane but he does not remember barrel maker). All 4 1-8" twist (22cal and 6mm) blew up bullets from the very start. NEVER had a Hornady A-Max 22 or 6mm EVER make it to target................only bullets that would stand up to the 3 groove were 22 and 6mm MatchKings. None of the 4 barrels made it to the 1000 round mark................as for the 338 barrel it gave up the ghost at 600 rounds.................only one of the 7 I have left is a 1-14" 222Rem, still shoots awesome with 1500 rounds down the tube
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 10,346
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 10,346 |
I've used most all land and groove situations, and think that a good barrel is a good barrel. I have yet to see scientific proof of any being better. Short range BR is 95% 4 groove. I would say in RF Br that the button ratchet4 groove barrels have a strangle hold.
|
|
|
|
571 members (1lessdog, 17CalFan, 10gaugemag, 06hunter59, 10gaugeman, 61 invisible),
2,456
guests, and
1,217
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,192,397
Posts18,488,893
Members73,970
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|