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You put some Seafoam in it?
Or at least some Sta-Bil storage?
Marvel Mystery?
Please tell me you put something in it.
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
(Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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That’s it, low octane bulk stored fuel is the chits! Seen my F-I-L and nephew tear into almost everything on the farm over bad low octane gas in the overhead tank. Fresh fuel fixed it all.
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Stihl starting procedure:
1.). Set on full choke. Pull 2-4 times until you hear it pop.
2.). Move lever up to fast run position. Pull to start.
Not sure what your issue is. This has worked for me over the last 35+ years with 10 different models.
Maybe it’s time for:
1.) new carb or rebuild
2.) new impulse line
3.) new plug or coil
4.) clean air filter
5.) clean sawdust from around/under flywheel and coil
Fresh gas, preferably ethanol free, at over 91 octane preferred. 50:1. No more.
Run the tank and carb dry after every use.
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I use the premix VP racing fuel 50 to 1. If you loose your octane rating from old gas a Stihl saw won’t start worth a crap, period! Might be worth a try before buying a new saw. Good idea My gas is the cheap 87 octane and its been bulk stored since May had stabilizer in it but it was cheap gas from the get go I should have known better. My chainsaw shop said stabilizer doesn't work on 87 octane, it has to be 89 or 92. And I was always told by the shops on small engines to run high test with GOOD stabilizer, including 4 wheelers.
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I use only non ethanol gas in my saws. The Echos will start first or second pull after sitting for a year or more. Only have one Stihl remaining. Very frustrating to start until I started giving it a shot of starting fluid.
I’ll be happy when this Stihl takes a final dump so I can replace it with an Echo.
My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.
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I have a Stihl with a primer bulb.
I never need to use it.
I am MAGA.
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Have a 20” Echo 4 yr old I think. No bulb. No problem starting. Never had likker in it.
“When Tyranny becomes Law, Rebellion becomes Duty”
Colossians 3:17 (New King James Version)
"And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him."
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Do you think it makes them easier to start?
My Stihls are getting to where ya have to pull em 35 times to fire em up.
Thinking about switching to a brand with a primer bulb. I need input if this makes a difference
I’ll hang up and listen are your rings toast? try pulling the plug swabbing a little oil around the cylinder wall just above the piston. if it starts easier your rings are probably worn. extra fuel won't help low compression...
-OMotS
"If memory serves fails me..."
Quote: ( unnamed) "been prtty deep in the cooler todaay "
Television and radio are most effective when people question little and think even less.
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Stihl starting procedure:
1.). Set on full choke. Pull 2-4 times until you hear it pop.
2.). Move lever up to fast run position. Pull to start.
Not sure what your issue is. This has worked for me over the last 35+ years with 10 different models.
Maybe it’s time for:
1.) new carb or rebuild
2.) new impulse line
3.) new plug or coil
4.) clean air filter
5.) clean sawdust from around/under flywheel and coil
Fresh gas, preferably ethanol free, at over 91 octane preferred. 50:1. No more.
Run the tank and carb dry after every use. Im probably due for carb rebuild Saw is 5 years old get ran a lot, probably crap sucked into the carb passed the dirty filter. I don’t maintain chit like Miss Manners. I admit I’m shameless about that. I can get a new carb for less than $50 Can replace the saw for $189
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Do you think it makes them easier to start?
My Stihls are getting to where ya have to pull em 35 times to fire em up.
Thinking about switching to a brand with a primer bulb. I need input if this makes a difference
I’ll hang up and listen are your rings toast? try pulling the plug swabbing a little oil around the cylinder wall just above the piston. if it starts easier your rings are probably worn. extra fuel won't help low compression... i’ll check that that too Thanks
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Look pm eBay for a new carb.
Couple months back i needed one for my echo pole saw.
Complete carb, gaskets, new fuel hose, new primer bulb, new spark plug.
All for $14.
Swapped it out. Fired right up.
Dave
�The man who complains about the way the ball bounces is likely to be the one who dropped it.� Lou Holtz
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I use the premix VP racing fuel 50 to 1. If you loose your octane rating from old gas a Stihl saw won’t start worth a crap, period! Might be worth a try before buying a new saw. Good idea My gas is the cheap 87 octane and its been bulk stored since May had stabilizer in it but it was cheap gas from the get go I should have known better. My chainsaw shop said stabilizer doesn't work on 87 octane, it has to be 89 or 92. And I was always told by the shops on small engines to run high test with GOOD stabilizer, including 4 wheelers. I’ve asked a few times and looked on the internet- “How long does Sta-bil last” All I get is the estimates for the mixed product. I wanted to know “HOW LONG DOES STA BIL ITSELF LAST” Because I have about an 8 year bottle of the red Stabil on a shelf in the shop. Wondered if it was good. I bought some new anyway. The internet is stupid sometimes.
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Look pm eBay for a new carb.
Couple months back i needed one for my echo pole saw.
Complete carb, gaskets, new fuel hose, new primer bulb, new spark plug.
All for $14.
Swapped it out. Fired right up.
Will do
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Look pm eBay for a new carb.
Couple months back i needed one for my echo pole saw.
Complete carb, gaskets, new fuel hose, new primer bulb, new spark plug.
All for $14.
Swapped it out. Fired right up.
Yepp... But they are 1-2 year carbs... at best. Save the old carb and Hopps 9 it with a diabetes syringe... probably be OK when you put it back on after the China carb fails.
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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Do you think it makes them easier to start?
My Stihls are getting to where ya have to pull em 35 times to fire em up.
Guessing it fuel... I am OCD on 93 octane ethanol free (or AV Gas) and Echo Red Armor oil... ONLY!
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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Do you think it makes them easier to start?
My Stihls are getting to where ya have to pull em 35 times to fire em up.
Thinking about switching to a brand with a primer bulb. I need input if this makes a difference
I’ll hang up and listen are your rings toast? try pulling the plug swabbing a little oil around the cylinder wall just above the piston. if it starts easier your rings are probably worn. extra fuel won't help low compression... i’ll check that that too Thanks 40mm rings cost me $10 can of carb cleaner for a different used saw that wouldn't start bought as is cost me $4. that saw is a peach now! just gave it a cleaning, cogs, air filter and the tank breather valve thing that replaced the vinyl tube with two grub screws in it. also check Scribd.com for stihl service manuals...
-OMotS
"If memory serves fails me..."
Quote: ( unnamed) "been prtty deep in the cooler todaay "
Television and radio are most effective when people question little and think even less.
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Originally Posted by BigDave39355
"Look pm eBay for a new carb.
Couple months back i needed one for my echo pole saw.
Complete carb, gaskets, new fuel hose, new primer bulb, new spark plug.
All for $14.
Swapped it out. Fired right up."
That must be a TOP quality carburetor. Is it made by Holly"
Asking for a friend...
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I use the premix VP racing fuel 50 to 1. If you loose your octane rating from old gas a Stihl saw won’t start worth a crap, period! Might be worth a try before buying a new saw. Good idea My gas is the cheap 87 octane and its been bulk stored since May had stabilizer in it but it was cheap gas from the get go I should have known better. My chainsaw shop said stabilizer doesn't work on 87 octane, it has to be 89 or 92. And I was always told by the shops on small engines to run high test with GOOD stabilizer, including 4 wheelers. I’ve asked a few times and looked on the internet- “How long does Sta-bil last” All I get is the estimates for the mixed product. I wanted to know “HOW LONG DOES STA BIL ITSELF LAST” Because I have about an 8 year bottle of the red Stabil on a shelf in the shop. Wondered if it was good. I bought some new anyway. The internet is stupid sometimes. I'd think the stabilizer has "indefinite" life, but once mixed mine says....1/2 oz gallon for 3-6 months, 1 oz. gallon for 1 year. But most stabilizer is cheap junk, buy the good stuff and high octane gas and your problems are over. I run a lot of small engines including quads, and never have a problem...start right up even a year later. But I do run my leaf blower & weed wacker empty/dry at the end of the year. I use all Echo small engines, 5 year warranty. EDIT: If I had to guess, your 87 octane and cheaper stabilizer trashed your carb.
Last edited by Bwana_1; 12/04/21.
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Fresh gasoline is important. Burn up the old stale gas in your pickup and buy some some fresh gas for saws and snow blowers etc.
"Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life." (Prov 4:23)
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Rene says pics or it didn't happen... 391 (25 and 20" bars) down to 017 gassers, the battery powered was my present to me last Christmas. Not pictured is the man killer Stihl pole saw. Run premium non alcohol in them and the big weed eater. the 250 is the coldest collared of the bunch. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/Am9wYSd.jpg)
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