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Quick math here.
7000 head(commercial stock?), net maybe $3.5 million. Way more if they are raising/selling registered.
No idea about their farming operation.
Take about 100 years to make it pay....lol
Obviously though there is more to the story and sticking a huge chunk of money into something that actually exists is no doubt the plan.
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Quick math here.
7000 head(commercial stock?), net maybe $3.5 million. Way more if they are raising/selling registered.
No idea about their farming operation.
Take about 100 years to make it pay....lol
Obviously though there is more to the story and sticking a huge chunk of money into something that actually exists is no doubt the plan. Besides owning something tangible the family can own it for the next 30-40 years make a big chunk of that money back raising cattle and then still get all of the original investment back.
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You'd think the feds could have printed off some more money to buy it.
Quando omni flunkus moritati
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I wonder how many people were killed by their ranch hands? Does it have a train station?
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Yeah...ranching pays reeeeeeeeal good.
Hahaha!
I am MAGA.
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Market keeps creeping up cuzzin'!
$1300 steer calves by February!
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I wonder how many people were killed by their ranch hands? Does it have a train station? You won the Campfire today...🏆
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Market keeps creeping up cuzzin'!
$1300 steer calves by February! Nice! I would have 1400 into them by then!
I am MAGA.
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The Flathead Ridge Ranch was established this year. It's a 125,800 acres of land west of Kalispell Montana. It ain't really a ranch at all, just some fat rich dude with a lot of cash that wants to pretend he has a ranch in Montana so he bought all the land and gave it a ranch like name.
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I wonder how many people were killed by their ranch hands? Does it have a train station? You won the Campfire today...🏆 Careful now, Varmintguy might not Varmintunderstand...
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.
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Reivertom: Until recently my VarmintWife and I were/are VERY close to the just now former "Ranch Manager", and his wife, for that Matador (Beaverhead?) Ranch.
He took another position at another ranch a few months ago.
I am NOT sure what you mean by "white elephant" but if you mean that ranch looses money then I beg to differ!
That ranch has been operating continuously for a VERY long time!
I doubt it would have sold if it were "loosing money" (white elephant?)!
From what bits of inside information I am privy to the ranch is alive and doing very well.
Visualize, if you will, a buyer who pays cash for said ranch and then continues to grow crops, raise cattle and allow some Hunters to "access" said ranch.
It just MAY take Mr. Murdoch a while to recoup his total investment - but that, I surmise, is the LEAST of Mr. Murdoch' financial worries!
The INCREDIBLE tax write-offs and benefits that come with owning a huge free and clear ranch were and are motivating factors, I am sure, for Mr. Murdoch buying this giant "spread" from the Koch Brothers (Koch Industries).
Besides the great Hunting (of which I doubt Mr. Murdoch will partake!.
In fact this past fall I took my lifelong friend (100% Disabled Veteran) and another friend of mine Antelope Hunting on leased land from that ranch.
We only had one tag and made good on that one opening morning.
White elephant - again I am not sure I know what that means but if it is something derogatory then I refute that.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy VG, Most of these large "gentleman's ranches" lose money. It doesn't matter, agriculture is the best tax shelter in America. That's why people like Murdoch can afford to buy and operate them, with all the trappings of a going concern. I wonder how much is deeded land, how much is leased, and how much acreage is included that is actually just federal land grazing permits, the latter doesn't preclude the public from using the land.
Casey
Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively...
Having said that, MAGA.
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Market keeps creeping up cuzzin'!
$1300 steer calves by February! Nice! I would have 1400 into them by then! yeah , but the fuggin cows insit on having half heifers , or more many years and the heifer calves dont bring jack
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It used to be said if you were paying taxes farming you’re doing it wrong.
"I was born in the log cabin I helped my grandfather build"
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Heifer calves are always a couple hundred back, unless someone thinks they're replacement quality.
If we get snow and rain before turnout next spring pairs are gonna be gold.
I know a bunch of guys who tested 20-50% open and they'll be scrambling to find cows to run.
But if the moisture doesn't come we are done.
As in toast.
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The Flathead Ridge Ranch was established this year. It's a 125,800 acres of land west of Kalispell Montana. It ain't really a ranch at all, just some fat rich dude with a lot of cash that wants to pretend he has a ranch in Montana so he bought all the land and gave it a ranch like name. This fake ranch eliminated my long range shooting spot.... ^^^^^ As for the Matador, it is a piece of heaven, my experience with them has been, they are pretty laid back as far as Montana ranches go... we will see if that continues
Originally Posted by Judman
PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Biden will tax him on all the cow farts.
Its all right to be white!!
Stupidity left unattended will run rampant
Don't argue with stupid people, They will drag you down to their level and then win by experience
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Hope it doesn't get busted up in 40 area ranchettes.
Plus mule.
"I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man."
Thomas Jefferson
GeoW, The "Unwoke" ...Let's go Brandon!
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Biden will tax him on all the cow farts. Biden will probably make a deal with them that pays them more to NOT raise cattle.
Politics is War by Other Means
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I wonder how many full time employees it takes to run a ranch that large?
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Market keeps creeping up cuzzin'!
$1300 steer calves by February! Nice! I would have 1400 into them by then! yeah , but the fuggin cows insit on having half heifers , or more many years and the heifer calves dont bring jack These youngsters don't remember back when heifers were 5 cents back. Then it was ten cents back. I have heard of contracts this year for 30 cents back!
I am MAGA.
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