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So far a sample of 5 folks with bear creek all show with reloads around MOA. I don't think they are any worse than the other lower end places personally so far.
Faxon sold us a skinny barrel years ago that was pretty much MOA with reloads too.

Accuracy with ball ammo says usually not much more than what the ammo is.

I guess he will keep us posted. He says he paid $180.00 for a used upper with BCG. One of my buddies offered me a complete flat top upper with old Bushmaster 20" HBAR with A2 fsp for $350.00. Says it shoots great too. Another buddy bought an old/but like new complete A2 national match Bushy upper for $200.00 a few years ago. So my question: does a person buy a used el cheapo, or go with a more proven upper for just a little more money? Also, my buddies national match loves 62gr green tip ammo, but doesn't like 55gr ball. I don't know of too many rifles that do like ball ammo. Expectations shouldn't be too high there.

You get finer sight adjustments with the NM. Other than that, it's your judgment call.

62 is ball also, but sometimes shoots a bit better. Especially if you weight sort the 62s if loading em. Big PITA. before we did that we just bought thousands of 60 flat base HP instead.

That said ball is often 3 moa and thats what he was sort of after. Thats out of just rack military guns. So its not going to be hard to get where he wants to go typically.

I bought a DB upper for $230 shipped for complete 16 inch barrel model with rail and it shoots great. I found Anderson LPK's for $35 also so I have less than $400 in my build. Watch cdnnsports also for close out parts.

I wanted to build one.
Then looked at parts, and the few tools needed.
Then the few more to do it right.

Then looked at PSA complete uppers/lowers.

It became obvious real quick that building cheap AR's was the
same game as reloading cheap blasting ammo. (Remember then)

And also that,
with careful shopping,


a high quality gun could be built
relatively cheaply.

Just like loading high quality ammo.

I agree rost. One of the reasons I brought up the 62gr green tips as well. It is ball, but seems to be just a bit better in some rifles than the 55's.

Upper and magazines showed up today, had the unexpected surprise of the upper still having a BCG in it. Sans sights I’m in for ~$350 at this point since the BCG I bought shouldn’t be needed. Still trying to decide which iron sights to buy, but I think that it’s close to finished for less than expected. Hopefully will hit the range next week.

"unexpected surprise" huh? AS was expecting a good range report. Is it going to be factual? Some things in this thread, make you go hmmm...

I doubt mine will be a good metric to judge BCA off of since this is a used upper.

Joe bobs is a good little site for ar parts. I couldn't find a 300bo upper anywhere and decided to build one. I went with aero upper from them, ar stoner barrel, matrix arms handguard. Of course the proper gas tube, etc and a toolcraft bcg. Had fun doing it and it shoots well.

But you gotta recall that BSA has his own personal demand of good accuracy.

And recall that good accuracy is what YOU desire.

As long as you report what you shot and how it shot its all perfect IMHO.

I only give a chidt about good honest groups. Honest being the operative word. I'll also add that 3 shot groups should not apply when dealing with high capacity firearms, such as an AR15. They should also not apply to a varmint rifle or heavy barreled tactical rifle in any chambering.. Others may disagree, but those are my standards.. YMMV

Well, it looks like we will not find out. Pawn shop next to my work had a gew 88 that I traded them for, straight swap and it should compliment my vz98/22 well.

Its not all about you..........

Good logic.

kwg

Well I will be the Guinea pig lol I ordered everything from them minus barrel and Lower. Grand total was $292 which included shipping.

I believe all their stuff is Chinese made.

Cool like 90% of the stuff sold in this country…. Their BCG advertised made in America, along with their uppers. Now there float tubes different story probably.

I don't buy Chinese made goods when there are viable alternatives made in the US or made in countries that share our values and respect intellectual property rights. There are scathing reviews of KM Tactical's BCGs on ARF. Whether these reviews apply to their current crop, I don't know. With the shortages of the last two years, I've frequently contacted suppliers to ensure that I'm not buying Chinese made parts. With the exception of a very small window around the time of the Biden Bucks Covid stimulus, at no time has the parts supply compelled me to reevaluate my stance—I've not needed to accept Chinese made parts due to lack of alternatives or the wildly escalated pricing of alternatives. Granted all this hinges on my own personal values and my individual choice to prioritize not supporting the economies of my enemies.

I don't presume that these must necessarily also be your priorities, but would certainly understand if they were.