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I shoot iron sights.
Cuz Big Stick said if I did I could hit dirt.
Err, some shît like that.
~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
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We have Nikon 22 rimfire scope with the BDC reticle. We zero @ 50, and it works well beyond that. We can pretty easily go under 2” @ 100 yards! memtb
You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong." -Bob Hagel
“I’d like to be a good rifleman…..but, I prefer to be a good hunter”! memtb 2024
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Any of you use a 100 yard zero for 22 LR rifles ?
What would you consider an acceptable MOA at 100 yards? 2” more, or less?
Most of my 22’s are zero’d at 100. I have a couple rim rifles with a 50 yard zero.
I primarily shoot CCI 40g Mini Mag ammo. Seems across the battery of rimfire rifles I have, mini mags showed the most consistent.
I have had strange plinking days, where a rifle will show 1.5” MOA all day long. Next time I take the same rifle out, it’s printing like I have a turkey choke on it....Don’t know why. Any idea ?
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Beav ever hear of a 17 M2 ? light years ahead of the 22 LR
T R U M P W O N !
U L T R A M A G A !
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Only with CCI Stingers anyhing else is at 50 yards.
Dean
RUMs are like woman in Stiletto heals, you know they are going to put you in the poor house, but that has never stopped anyone from pursuing them.
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I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
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Good shooting there! With power points. Double impressed
Last edited by ribka; 12/19/21.
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Any of you use a 100 yard zero for 22 LR rifles ?
What would you consider an acceptable MOA at 100 yards? 2” more, or less?
Most of my 22’s are zero’d at 100. I have a couple rim rifles with a 50 yard zero.
I primarily shoot CCI 40g Mini Mag ammo. Seems across the battery of rimfire rifles I have, mini mags showed the most consistent.
I have had strange plinking days, where a rifle will show 1.5” MOA all day long. Next time I take the same rifle out, it’s printing like I have a turkey choke on it....Don’t know why. Any idea ?
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Beav ever hear of a 17 M2 ? light years ahead of the 22 LR Or a .17 HMR? How about quarter MOA, Annie 1717 with 17 gr/ CCI TNT at a hundred. DF
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When good results turn bad the first thing my benchrest shooting buds say is: conditions. They changed.
I've used a wind flag @ 25 yards just to see. Yep, Just a light breeze on my cheek will move the bullet. I must be consistent on the trigger to realize this but I've seen it.
I can't, won't say it's conditions every time stuff goes sour, but it's a player for sure.
I use a 50 yard zero because both RF benchrest & RF benchrest for score competition is shot at that distance & data or standards at that distance are readily available. A hundred yard zero allows variables to change exponentially,,,, was it me? the ammo? or WTF?
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Any of you use a 100 yard zero for 22 LR rifles ?
What would you consider an acceptable MOA at 100 yards? 2” more, or less?
Most of my 22’s are zero’d at 100. I have a couple rim rifles with a 50 yard zero.
I primarily shoot CCI 40g Mini Mag ammo. Seems across the battery of rimfire rifles I have, mini mags showed the most consistent.
I have had strange plinking days, where a rifle will show 1.5” MOA all day long. Next time I take the same rifle out, it’s printing like I have a turkey choke on it....Don’t know why. Any idea ?
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Beav ever hear of a 17 M2 ? light years ahead of the 22 LR I have, Tik....I toyed with ownership a handful of times of one. Decided to go all in on 17 HMR and 17 WSM rimfire. 🦫
Curiosity Killed the Cat & The Prairie Dog “Molon Labe”
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Any of you use a 100 yard zero for 22 LR rifles ?
What would you consider an acceptable MOA at 100 yards? 2” more, or less?
Most of my 22’s are zero’d at 100. I have a couple rim rifles with a 50 yard zero.
I primarily shoot CCI 40g Mini Mag ammo. Seems across the battery of rimfire rifles I have, mini mags showed the most consistent.
I have had strange plinking days, where a rifle will show 1.5” MOA all day long. Next time I take the same rifle out, it’s printing like I have a turkey choke on it....Don’t know why. Any idea ?
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Beav ever hear of a 17 M2 ? light years ahead of the 22 LR Or a .17 HMR? How about quarter MOA, Annie 1717 with 17 gr/ CCI TNT at a hundred. DF I’ve sunk a little money into my rim 17’s. I have a couple of Clark’s rifles that I had built in both HMR and WSM. Tack Drivers! I also picked up a Ruger Precision 17 HMR, when they were cheaper. Threaded barrel. I caught a good one. It’s been ultra accurate from day with. It’s almost boring to shoot it due to its ability to hit the X 🦫
Curiosity Killed the Cat & The Prairie Dog “Molon Labe”
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About the only thing I shoot with my .22s is grouse 50 yd zero seems the best trying a few. Seems I can't sneak up on them much closer and from about 15 yds to 60yds POI is within kill zone aiming at the base of the neck on a chicken.j Except for the ones I miss. lol Same thing works for me for grouse and ptarmigan.
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What .22 rifle are you shooting? Couple of Japan made Model 52’s Kimber Hunter-Silhouette Browning A-bolt and a Ruger 10/22 that has some upgrades are 50 yard zeroed 🦫 Do they all have the same problem that you stated? The Kimber has been a consistent rifle. The Winchester 52’s are the rifles that have good days and bad days... Both haven’t been tortured with piles of ammo thru them...Bore get’s wiped out with cleaner and cloth after 500. or so rounds. 🦫 Other than the basics.... scope, mounts, base, crown, action screws, etc. Wonder if the 52s are just ammo sensitive? That’s likely it...I’ve run a few different types of mfg’s ammo thru them. CCI mini-mags seemed to hit a sweet spot for both ~ it went South. Scope and rings seemed g2g when I checked them as a possible culprit. 🦫
Curiosity Killed the Cat & The Prairie Dog “Molon Labe”
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75 yds because that's the distance to my orchard for busting squirrels. That’s part of the reason I went (tried for) a 100 zero. I’ve got to stretch a smidge to reach an area where things need to die. Part of this, as I’m sure some, maybe, most would agree....is just shooting my 22LR enough to know where to hold on shots made from 25 yards out to whatever. I’ve seen some old coots who would consistently smacked small things out past 100 yards. 🦫
Curiosity Killed the Cat & The Prairie Dog “Molon Labe”
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My experience is 1" 5 shot groups at 50 yards for the average 22 rifle will translate to 5" groups at 100 yards.
The bullet goes subsonic and gets disturbed ~~75 yards.
The guys serious about 100 yards with 22LR, will shoot sub sonic ammo and lob those slow bullets in with lots of trajectory.
This creates a great long range opportunity for 17M2, 17HMR, and 22WMR....... but so far 22LR is still selling.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. -Ernest Hemingway The man who makes no mistakes does not usually make anything.-- Edward John Phelps
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Campfire Oracle
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75 yds because that's the distance to my orchard for busting squirrels. That’s part of the reason I went (tried for) a 100 zero. I’ve got to stretch a smidge to reach an area where things need to die. Part of this, as I’m sure some, maybe, most would agree....is just shooting my 22LR enough to know where to hold on shots made from 25 yards out to whatever. I’ve seen some old coots who would consistently smacked small things out past 100 yards. 🦫 Get a FFP scope in mils. Problem solved
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Only with CCI Stingers anyhing else is at 50 yards.
Dean I bought a pile of Stingers, thinking it would solve all issues. Damn near every rim rifle I owed threw them all over the target. My pistols eat them up now. 🦫
Curiosity Killed the Cat & The Prairie Dog “Molon Labe”
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75 yds because that's the distance to my orchard for busting squirrels. That’s part of the reason I went (tried for) a 100 zero. I’ve got to stretch a smidge to reach an area where things need to die. Part of this, as I’m sure some, maybe, most would agree....is just shooting my 22LR enough to know where to hold on shots made from 25 yards out to whatever. I’ve seen some old coots who would consistently smacked small things out past 100 yards. 🦫 Get a FFP scope in mils. Problem solved Hahaha.....You Suck, bruh ! Wifey, I’m buying a another NF ~ Merry Christmas 🎄 to me. 😬🦫
Curiosity Killed the Cat & The Prairie Dog “Molon Labe”
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My experience is 1" 5 shot groups at 50 yards for the average 22 rifle will translate to 5" groups at 100 yards.
The bullet goes subsonic and gets disturbed ~~75 yards.
The guys serious about 100 yards with 22LR, will shoot sub sonic ammo and lob those slow bullets in with lots of trajectory.
This creates a great long range opportunity for 17M2, 17HMR, and 22WMR....... but so far 22LR is still selling. Sounds about right...Some days it’s like I’m waiting on my birthday for the 40gr pill to smack a target. 🦫
Curiosity Killed the Cat & The Prairie Dog “Molon Labe”
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75 yds because that's the distance to my orchard for busting squirrels. That’s part of the reason I went (tried for) a 100 zero. I’ve got to stretch a smidge to reach an area where things need to die. Part of this, as I’m sure some, maybe, most would agree....is just shooting my 22LR enough to know where to hold on shots made from 25 yards out to whatever. I’ve seen some old coots who would consistently smacked small things out past 100 yards. 🦫 Get a FFP scope in mils. Problem solved Hahaha.....You Suck, bruh ! Wifey, I’m buying a another NF ~ Merry Christmas 🎄 to me. 😬🦫 Life's too short to go without fine optics! Better to ask for forgiveness than permission brother Beave!
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