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Many that shoot 22's seriously will shoot subsonic ammo to begin with. So that is one factor that's eliminated. Not what I would have thought, but many serious shooters reaching out 2-400 yards start with subsonic ammo as well. One less variable to deal with.
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75 yds because that's the distance to my orchard for busting squirrels. That’s part of the reason I went (tried for) a 100 zero. I’ve got to stretch a smidge to reach an area where things need to die. Part of this, as I’m sure some, maybe, most would agree....is just shooting my 22LR enough to know where to hold on shots made from 25 yards out to whatever. I’ve seen some old coots who would consistently smacked small things out past 100 yards. 🦫 Get a FFP scope in mils. Problem solved Hahaha.....You Suck, bruh ! Wifey, I’m buying a another NF ~ Merry Christmas 🎄 to me. 😬🦫 Life's too short to go without fine optics! Better to ask for forgiveness than permission brother Beave! Absolutely! I’m gonna strap on my kevlar and riot helmet then tell the wife what’s~what. 👍🏼🦫
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75 yds because that's the distance to my orchard for busting squirrels. That’s part of the reason I went (tried for) a 100 zero. I’ve got to stretch a smidge to reach an area where things need to die. Part of this, as I’m sure some, maybe, most would agree....is just shooting my 22LR enough to know where to hold on shots made from 25 yards out to whatever. I’ve seen some old coots who would consistently smacked small things out past 100 yards. 🦫 Get a FFP scope in mils. Problem solved Hahaha.....You Suck, bruh ! Wifey, I’m buying a another NF ~ Merry Christmas 🎄 to me. 😬🦫 Life's too short to go without fine optics! Better to ask for forgiveness than permission brother Beave! Absolutely! I’m gonna strap on my kevlar and riot helmet then tell the wife what’s~what. 👍🏼🦫 Atta boy! Let me know the outcome.....
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All of mine have been sighted in at 50 yards. Over Covid I have shot a lot more rimfire and very recently bought a Bergara B14R carbon fiber to play with at 100 yards plus. I have also discovered SK and the like ammunition so just new fun for me. Knowing what I have seen with SK and a recent Sako purchase I need to drag out my Savage Anschutz, Rem 541 and a tweaked 10-22. Fun stuff to say the least.
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All of mine have been sighted in at 50 yards. Over Covid I have shot a lot more rimfire and very recently bought a Bergara B14R carbon fiber to play with at 100 yards plus. I have also discovered SK and the like ammunition so just new fun for me. Knowing what I have seen with SK and a recent Sako purchase I need to drag out my Savage Anschutz, Rem 541 and a tweaked 10-22. Fun stuff to say the least. SK is fine ammo,,its lapua,,, Eley is another as is RWS all high end rimfire ammo,,, I zero at 50 and with this ammo usually put a 5 shot group in a bug hole CCI is just slightly larger
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My ruger american will shoot 1.5” no problem at 100 but there cant be any wind. About 48” drop at 200 yds with a 30 yd zero. Groups a little bigger than your fist. 5” ish.
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The carbon ring Lapua spoke of is especially important for a 22lr to maintain a good CBS [cold barrel shot] . Target shooting it doesn't matter as much, although keeping a barrel carbon rings free is always a good idea. The CR is a combination of burned powder, lube, and lead that builds up right at the rifling lands. It is very hard when cold, when the bullet passes through it - it swages the bullet shrinking it a small amount thus causing > a whacky bullet. The bullet doesn't land POA [point of aim] due to being swaged through the CR.
JB Bore paste and a Nylon Brush plus a bit of scrubbing will get rid of the CR. Don't clean the entire barrel just the chamber area.
For accuracy hands down Subsonic quality ammo Wolf/SK/RWS], HV ammo can't compete with subsonic.
As Clark said the HV ammo goes subsonic at 75yds. creating whacky flying bullets.
Saw a comparison of 22lr subsonic 40gr. vs Benjamin Marauder 25cal. 25-28gr.[?] pellet > 22lr subsonic produces the same energy at 125+ yards as 25cal. Marauder does at the muzzle. We all know a pellet rifle like that will easily kill small game, even biggish coons/skunks/thieves.
Me - 40 yard zero 22lr subs. 75yds. 22mag. 100yds.17hmr.
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Being in a competitive silhouette shooter for pushing 20 years I have zeros for 25 50 75 and 100 yards. Also 40, 60 77 and 100 m
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Used to do ok on the small bore prone range at 50, 100, and 200. All I had was a 37 Remington, a 20x unertal scope, Remington irons and Eley ammo
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I can’t believe how stupid the original question was.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I can’t believe how stupid the original question was.
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Used to do ok on the small bore prone range at 50, 100, and 200. All I had was a 37 Remington, a 20x unertal scope, Remington irons and Eley ammo I’ve never shot Eley ammo. Have some SK/Lapua that has been good. 🦫
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I like the SK standard velocity too. 50 yd zero, ~7.5 moa cum up for 100 yd. Savage Mk II BTV, 12x swfa.
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I stopped reading after the first page ...22 long rifle "stingers" "Sighted 2 inches high at 100 yards ...all the digger squirrels .....we wanted .....a hundred yards and under.....beyond on that 22250 = good times!
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Beaver10; Good evening to you my cyber friend, I hope the weekend was a good one for you all and this finds you well. On another forum I'm on, a fellow from up north was muttering that his rebarreled CZ 452 was getting tighter groups at 100yds than his new 6.5PRC build and no, that didn't make him pleased one little bit. While I do a wee bit of shooting with .22's at 100yds, usually I'll test ammo at 25yds with 10 shot groups to see what the dispersion looks like there. Then with some of them I'll stretch it with paper out to 50 next and sometimes 100yds, but honestly usually I prefer to take the good grouping stuff out as far as the wind will allow me on that day. Ponderosa Pine cones are a great reactive and biodegradable target. I'm sure you know that even good .22's can be ammunition sensitive, here's one of the initial test runs on a Tikka T1X I ran. This was another day with the Tikka and a CZ No 5 Anyways sir, I'm not sure that was super helpful, but it does illustrate ammo preferences for sure in a couple different rifles. Good luck with your testing and Merry Christmas to you all. Dwayne
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BC, shoot flies. Paper target at 50 yd, bait with a spot of peanut butter. I wait for them to land, hard to shoot on the wing.
Occasional idiot I am, shooting a 50 yd 22rf br match, close bolt, look through scope, see a hole where it shouldn't be. Called a crossfire to ro. Looked again, told ro never mind, crossfire flew away.
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I zero mine at 35 yds, that's good for early season squirrel hunting. When the leaves fall, I'll zero at 50 yds. Zero my CZ 452 at 75 yds....... with the 4 x 16 scope on top of it, that rifle will consistently head shoot a ground squirrel to 125 yds with no problem... and this is using Federal Bulk 22 LR in the 550 boxes you use to be able to get from Walmart for like $9.00 That's off a Bi pod, off the top of a 1988 4 Runner Hood.
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22’s for me have always been plinking fun and light duty killing on small furs out to 100 yards, or there about.
My 22 rifles aren’t anything fancy, standard out of the box wares, except for the semi-customized Ruger 10/22. My Kimber H-S has been a consistent shooting rimfire out to 100 yards. The A-bolt also a prints a decent target at 100 with a 50 yard zero.
It’s the (2) Winchester Model 52’s that give me some fits. One is a standard sporter, the other is Zander heavy barrel. Both have been bedded. The two Mod 52’s are finicky and piss me off on occasions when they don’t produce the MOA they had shown a month earlier.
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My Winchester 62 is zero at 50 yds with Velociator 40 gr… can pick off crows in top of pine trees at 120 yds holding couple inches over top of there head if no wind….2x7 scope. The 22 shorts fun to shoot squirrels in early season they drop them just as good as the LR’s and lot quieter.
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Hey Dwayne, looks like your T1x and Cz #5 are doing better than my model 52’s.
I’ve tried a lot of different types of ammo with varying degrees of suck, until using the 40g mini mags from CCI. It doesn’t make sense that one day I’m consistent with 2” or better, with both rifles just flicking round after round down range...Then next time out, it’s a 4” MOA.
Have a Merry Christmas ~ Maybe you’ll catch some snow.
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