Gees my memory sucks anymore. I thought that 7mm Express stuff was long before I went into the service. I know people were getting them mixed up pretty good, the 7mm Express and 7mm Rem Mag. Heck by 1978 I had been in for a hitch, out, back in, back overseas, and home again! Time flies. Out of everything I lost, I miss my memory the most, LOL!