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Ranger99,
Back during the Obama rimfire "shortage" a posted on the Campfire boasted that when any local store got a shipment, he'd go there with various "disguises" in his pickup. He'd go in and buy whatever the store's allowed limit was, then go back out to his pickup and change hat and shirt, put on a hat, and maybe a pair of sunglass, then go back in and buy some more.
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Ranger99,
Back during the Obama rimfire "shortage" a posted on the Campfire boasted that when any local store got a shipment, he'd go there with various "disguises" in his pickup. He'd go in and buy whatever the store's allowed limit was, then go back out to his pickup and change hat and shirt, put on a hat, and maybe a pair of sunglass, then go back in and buy some more.
Well sir, I don't doubt that at all because I saw the same kind of thing myself. I'd tell a coworker or an acquaintance. Some would just shake their head, but more than I expected would call me a lying blankety blanker and so on. . So many wanted to believe the secret-Indiana-Jones- warehouse where they were stacking all the 22 LR ammunition from all over the USA, presumably adjacent to the ark of the covenant Never did see any of those 22 firearms that everybody declared that they would throw away. IMO I think the people leaving the country after the 2016 election each carried a dozen or so apiece with them
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I’m guilty, have bought supplies I’ll never use up, because I’m afraid I’ll run out, can’t get more.
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I am shooting the 175 Eld x with 57.0g of IMR 7828, Fed 210(other primers blow the group) seals the deal in fire formed Lapua '06 brass, bullets all touch at 100 yards. Nosler 175g LRAB shoot very tiny groups .010 off the lands, sort by ogive lengths.
Lapua brass is very tough brass, not to mention the quality. It is worth your time and effort to form some 280 brass out of the Lapua '06 brass. You will shoot the barrel out with 100 rounds of brass.
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280AI..28" Bartlein barrel 140 Nos Accu Bond moly 3.34" 56.2 gr IMR4166 Quickload predicts: 66 kpsi 3214 fps chrono measures: 3252, 3197 fps
7mmRM... 140 gr Accubond 3.34" 65.1 gr IMR-4451 QL 24" barrel 72.2 kpsi 3265 fps chronograph: 3244 3267 3252 3236
7mmRM and 280AI are close.
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t a gun show a dealer friend saw boxes of 22 shells go for $100 each. 410 shells for much higher I think he said $150 per box. This was right after our commander in chief took office, talk about panic. One guy was pissed because the dealer sold him his last box of 22 shells at $100. The guy was sure the dealer had more under the table and he wanted it all.
I prefer classic. Semper Fi I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise and I do my own stunts but rarely intentionally
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I am shooting the 175 Eld x with 57.0g of IMR 7828, Fed 210(other primers blow the group) seals the deal in fire formed Lapua '06 brass, bullets all touch at 100 yards. Nosler 175g LRAB shoot very tiny groups .010 off the lands, sort by ogive lengths.
Lapua brass is very tough brass, not to mention the quality. It is worth your time and effort to form some 280 brass out of the Lapua '06 brass. You will shoot the barrel out with 100 rounds of brass. How much shorter than spec does that Lapua brass end up being after forming to 280 AI ?
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My 280AI likes RE26 and 162 grain interlocks. That load could probably work well on most game I’ll be likely to shoot. My 280 also likes the 162 grain interlocks, though I have not played with that rifle for some time - I used 53 grains IMR4350 in that rifle. https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/gallery/80/full/185246.jpegThat group was shot at 100 meters. I didn’t have a range finder at that time and stepped off 100 paces.
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I prefer classic. Semper Fi I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise and I do my own stunts but rarely intentionally
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My 280AI likes RE26 and 162 grain interlocks. That load could probably work well on most game I’ll be likely to shoot. My 280 also likes the 162 grain interlocks, though I have not played with that rifle for some time - I used 53 grains IMR4350 in that rifle. https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/gallery/80/full/185246.jpegThat group was shot at 100 meters. I didn’t have a range finder at that time and stepped off 100 paces. B: Do you have Long Legs ? Target says 100 yards / .21” , metric would make that ~1.9” @ 100 yards In any case that’s more than sufficient accuracy to punch out to AI, Does it have any throat left ? My Fwt Classic stacks them like that sometimes, but seldom more than 3, and less so in a breeze. In any case, Thanks for sharing your loads. Interesting how the AI likes the slower powders, while the standard thrives on a little quicker burn rate.
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280AI..28" Bartlein barrel 140 Nos Accu Bond moly 3.34" 56.2 gr IMR4166 Quickload predicts: 66 kpsi 3214 fps chrono measures: 3252, 3197 fps
7mmRM... 140 gr Accubond 3.34" 65.1 gr IMR-4451 QL 24" barrel 72.2 kpsi 3265 fps chronograph: 3244 3267 3252 3236
7mmRM and 280AI are close. 28" barrel VS 24" barrel. Mmmm!
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280AI..28" Bartlein barrel 140 Nos Accu Bond moly 3.34" 56.2 gr IMR4166 Quickload predicts: 66 kpsi 3214 fps chrono measures: 3252, 3197 fps
7mmRM... 140 gr Accubond 3.34" 65.1 gr IMR-4451 QL 24" barrel 72.2 kpsi 3265 fps chronograph: 3244 3267 3252 3236
7mmRM and 280AI are close. 28" barrel VS 24" barrel. Mmmm! Must be the moly 🥴
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