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What do you consider a "stopping" cartridges for grizzlies? And on what basis?

The dangerous-game guides I know, both in North America and Africa, generally define it as a cartridge that will at least temporarily halt a charging animal long enough, even if the shot's not perfectly placed, to allow the shooter to put in another shot before the animal recovers from the previous shot.

I'd say .375 or bigger and 4000 ft-lbs and premium softs (A-Frame, TBBC family, Northfork). 0.300 sectional density. That's specifically for bear - AFAIK there are no elk in Africa.

It's a continuum of course. Can you use a .30-06? It's way better than what Mark had (his client had the Glock 10mm apparently) but worse that the above. It'll do better if you use premium 200+gr bullets. But if you get to pick, the .30-06 is not the best thing to pick.

And you know this how? As I asked before (and you never answered) have you ever seen a grizzly shot with any cartridge? Have you ever encountered a wild grizzly? Have you ever used a .375 on big game?

Ahh, the dumbfuck tries again. You still haven't answered if this is just and act, or you're really this stupid.

Oh, I'm very stupid. Am waiting for you to educate me with your vast experience.

We’ve seen enough of Llama Boob’s posts on other threads to know his dumfookery knows no bounds and is to be ignored not mocked.

That was some high quality entertainment.

Think someone is off their meds still. Stopping rifle? Aisle 6 behind starting pistols.

You use whatever you like. I gave the correct advice. If you want to use a .222 with varmint bullets that's between you and whoever enforces the hunting laws.

But bear danger while hunting is very very real, and using too little gun is stupid.

Still waiting, and waiting, and waiting.......Lol

JB, sorry about the “noise”, but do keep on sharing your knowledge and experience around the campfire, we appreciate it.

I second gbear's post

Always glad to read any opinion JB has to offer. On the other hand Llama Bob offers nothing of value....mb

The "Ignore User" button is a beautiful thing.

lol!

You really should stop posting. You deserve the ignore option more than anyone here.

Now that’s funny!!!

Someone should inform 458win that the 30/06 is not adequate to stop a bear…

I remember that guy - he was the one explaining what bullets he thought were effective for shooting client's bears in the ass. You should get him in here - here's just the clown this thread needs

I am going on my first Elk hunt this fall since I began hunting almost 50 years ago.

After reading the thread in the Elk hunting forum about the .300 WM and now this thread, I am a little skeered of toting my 49 year old Rem .30-06 with 168 TTSX's. Hope I make it back to share the story.