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Originally Posted by Magnum_Bob
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Nothing makes any sense anymore.


Nobody who voted for Joe Biden had any sense to start with why are you confused?

Trump won in a landslide.


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Sure, 700 unvaxxed nurses are a threat to community safety but 2 million unvaxxed illegal aliens are not..


Decades of voting for the lesser of two evils has gotten us just that.....
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I have a friend who is probably going there for treatment, can’t be good news since staffing is down before the layoffs.

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When 700 medical care employees at a top medical clinic refuse to get the shot or lose their jobs, is an eye opening reason to doubt the logic of everyone blindly submitting to mass experimental vaccination. Very compelling.

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My wife is an unvaxxed nurse, no mandate from her private office yet. She told me yesterday that literally every patient of theirs calling in have been vaxxed and boosted and mad as heck that they tested positive for the 'rona. She's not hearing from unvaxxed folks. She says the doctors just dont want to talk about it, they are still holding on that vax is the right thing to do, even for healthy folks. They are short staffed, mostly because vaxxed staff are out on quarantine with covid while she is going in early and staying late taking on their work load. The side effects she is seeing from the vax has her not wanting any part of it. One coworker of hers is now seeing a cardiologist, another developed tremors, and another developed bells palsy....and thats just coworker side effects, not what their patients are reporting also.

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Several months ago, President Joe Biden announced that health care facilities that receive Medicaid and Medicare funding would have to impose a vaccine mandate for all their employees or risk losing federal funding. About a week ago, the Centers for Medicaid & Medicare Services reversed its policy and announced it would begin enforcing the vaccine mandate in about half of all U.S. states, including Minnesota.

This is exactly why the Hospital my wife and son work in, has done this. They are employing a bunch of Traveling Nurses, for big money, just to staff the local hospital.
My wife and son both got the vaccine, but many of the people they work with didn't, and were unceremoniously thrown out the window. How long someone had been employed at the Hospital didn't matter. Of course it didn't apply to upper level management people, who were the ones firing everybody else.

Brandon's little "risk losing Federal funding", didn't publicly include, that hospitals would be getting "Extra Funding and Benefits" from his administration for complying.. that is where a lot of the money at the local hospitals is covering the pay for these Traveling Nurses...plus under the table benefits, I am sure that is going to UpStairs Administration Execs... that's how democRats operate....

Hospitals are looking at a lot of employees gathering together, and suing. I sure hope these Execs and politicians get burned over decisions like this...

This isn't about health care at all... its about Governmental control of society in General.... "Do what we tell you to do or else..."

yet the Brandon Administration has NO Issues, handing out free health care to illegal aliens what so ever...

As the stomach turns...Friggin democRats.


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Originally Posted by Mike_S
I have a friend who is probably going there for treatment, can’t be good news since staffing is down before the layoffs.


Friend of mines vaccinated dad got covid and his blood pressure dropped a ton to where he was admitted her in Ga. They had the beds, but not the staff. Rolled him in a room at 3:30pm, no one ever checked on him, no supper brought, etc. He literally pulled all the wires off him at 11:30pm and that was the first time a nurse or doctor came only because the alarm was going off. He told them he'd rather die at home and checked himself out. He made it through on his own and is still with us.

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I am amazed. Even those on this web site don’t get it. We aren’t heading toward socialized health care. WE ARE FUGGEN THERE!!!!!! The medical field is taking their marching orders from the gooberment. Along with corporate America. Ask your self, what public company CEO. Agrees to fire employees they can’t replace. I’ll tell you. Ones that have been promised ridiculous tax write offs, and bail outs. CONSTITUTION BE DAMMED!!!!!! WAKE THE FUG UP AMERICA!!!!! Remember Ashley Babbit!!!!





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Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Nothing makes any sense anymore.
Just part of the calculation to create total and absolute chaos... Gov't loves it... Until and unless the 'people' decide they'll not take it any longer... At that point, those politicians may find themselves literally running for their very lives..

They're really too stupid to realize what the consequences of their illegal/unconstitutional actions will be... They're final resting place will be very, very HOT...


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Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Nothing makes any sense anymore.

It does if you look at it from the perspective that they are looking to control people. Nothing to do with your well being or health. Many people dont want to believe it or just dont value their civil liberties. Too many these days with no skin in the game, they are just along for the ride.


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The real reason is Mayo clinic doesn't want to lose fed funds. Back door govt control of the health care system.



Crises->Opportunity->Single-Payer.

And after that chain comes total control.


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Originally Posted by kenjs1
Jeffrey- kind of hat everyone here has been saying.

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This is all for show. To scare the sheeple. Those workers will be back doing their same jobs next week, only as contractors.


Tyrone- you are suggesting the contractors- who would now be without insurance of their own - would NOT have to get he jab as condition of employment?
Would be great if you could somehow verify this if and when it happens.
I don't know all the specifics, but most contracting companies do provide health insurance. I also haven't heard any follow up reports. I can't find official reports with a web search. Maybe it was scrubbed, may I saw it in a comments section somewhere.


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If the .gov actually cared, there wouldn't be 100,000's of illegals crossing the southern border that are then bussed to "interior" states to further spread the virus.

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Originally Posted by Seafire
Several months ago, President Joe Biden announced that health care facilities that receive Medicaid and Medicare funding would have to impose a vaccine mandate for all their employees or risk losing federal funding. About a week ago, the Centers for Medicaid & Medicare Services reversed its policy and announced it would begin enforcing the vaccine mandate in about half of all U.S. states, including Minnesota.

This is exactly why the Hospital my wife and son work in, has done this. They are employing a bunch of Traveling Nurses, for big money, just to staff the local hospital.
My wife and son both got the vaccine, but many of the people they work with didn't, and were unceremoniously thrown out the window. How long someone had been employed at the Hospital didn't matter. Of course it didn't apply to upper level management people, who were the ones firing everybody else.

Brandon's little "risk losing Federal funding", didn't publicly include, that hospitals would be getting "Extra Funding and Benefits" from his administration for complying.. that is where a lot of the money at the local hospitals is covering the pay for these Traveling Nurses...plus under the table benefits, I am sure that is going to UpStairs Administration Execs... that's how democRats operate....
All of this is made possible by the fiat currency system. A system that allows as close to unlimited money (and power) as is physically possible.


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Originally Posted by Steve
Crises->Opportunity->Single-Payer.


Well down the slope and no turning back.

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But...if I LIKE my nurse....can I KEEP my nurse?


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I wonder if,,,,Can they fire someone who got a prescription for the Pfizer coronavirus pill , didn’t actually take the pill but showed them the prescription and claimed that they took the pill and were fully vaccinated ?

It’s supposedly a one time pill, once per year.

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey
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The Mayo may have saved my life a few years ago. Think I’ll continue to go there.


But the nurses who helped saved you won’t.

The more I see people from Minnesota and Wisconsin share their thoughts here, the more I question the intelligence of people from those states.

That is so true. There are some good folks in WI & MN but for the most part the Unions, Teachers & other Libs have Big Gov’t & Commie State control ingrained into the populace for decades.

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Here you go. An old fashioned vaccine from Baylor College of Medicine and the Texas Children's Center for Vaccine Development, No patents and it's open to any manufacturer that can safely produce it. They say a dose can be made for $1.50 per shot and does not need the refrigeration of the mRNA vaccines. CORBEVAX Since it cuts out the big 3 that is currently being used in America and does away with the billions of dollars they get, don't expect to see it here.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsa...cine-that-could-be-a-global-game-changer

A vaccine authorized in December for use in India may help solve one of the most vexing problems in global public health: How to supply lower-income countries with a COVID-19 vaccine that is safe, effective and affordable.

The vaccine is called CORBEVAX. It uses old but proven vaccine technology and can be manufactured far more easily than most, if not all, of the COVID-19 vaccines in use today.

"CORBEVAX is a game changer," says Dr. Keith Martin, executive director of the Consortium of Universities for Global Health in Washington, D.C. "It's going to enable countries around the world, particularly low-income countries, to be able to produce these vaccines and distribute them in a way that's going to affordable, effective and safe."

The story of CORBEVAX begins some two decades ago. Peter Hotez and Maria Elena Bottazzi were medical researchers at George Washington University in Washington, D.C., where they worked on vaccines and treatments for what are called neglected tropical diseases, such as schistosomiasis and hookworm.

When a strain of coronavirus known as SARS broke out in 2003, they decided to tackle that disease. After moving to Houston to affiliate with Baylor College of Medicine and the Texas Children's Center for Vaccine Development, they created a vaccine candidate using protein subunit technology. This involves using proteins from a virus or bacterium that can induce an immune response but not cause disease.

"It's the same technology as the hepatitis B vaccine that's been around for decades," Hotez says.

The goal: at least 40% vaxxed in all nations by year-end. This map shows how we stand
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The goal: at least 40% vaxxed in all nations by year-end. This map shows how we stand
Their SARS vaccine candidate looked promising, but then the SARS outbreak petered out. No evidence of disease, no need for a vaccine.

When a new strain of coronavirus triggered the COVID-19 pandemic, Hotez and Bottazzi figured they could dust off their old technology and modify it for use against COVID-19. After all, the virus causing COVID-19 and the virus causing SARS are quite similar.

Hotez says they tried to interest government officials in the vaccine, but they weren't impressed.

"People were so fixated on innovation that nobody thought, 'Hey, maybe we could use a low-cost, durable, easy-breezy vaccine that can vaccinate the whole world,' " Hotez says.

"We really honestly couldn't get any traction in the U.S., but our mission is always to enable technologies for low- and middle-income countries production and use," Bottazzi recalls.

So they turned to private philanthropies. A major donor early on was the JPB Foundation in New York.

"The rest were all Texas philanthropies: the Kleberg Foundation, the [John S.] Dunn Foundation, Tito's Vodka," Hotez says. The MD Anderson Foundation also chipped in.

"When people say, 'Why did we move [from Washington, D.C.] to Texas?' Well, we knew that this was a great philanthropic environment. So this is really very much a Texas vaccine," although there were other, smaller donors from all over the country.

Hotez says that unlike the mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna, and the viral vector vaccine from Johnson & Johnson, protein subunit vaccines like CORBEVAX have a track record. So he and Bottazzi were relatively certain CORBEVAX would be safe and effective.

"And it's cheap, a dollar, dollar fifty a dose," Hotez says. "You're not going to get less expensive than that."

Clinical trials showed they were right to be confident CORBEVAX would work. An unpublished study conducted in India involving 3,000 volunteers found the vaccine to be 90% effective in preventing disease cause by the original COVID-19 virus strain and 80% against the delta variant. It's still being tested against omicron.

But CORBEVAX is already entering the real world. Last month, the vaccine received emergency use authorization from regulators in India. An Indian vaccine manufacturer called Biological E Ltd is now making the vaccine. The company says it is producing 100 million doses per month and has already sold 300 million doses to the Indian government.

"The real beauty of the CORBEVAX vaccine that Drs. Hotez and Bottazzi created is that intellectual property of this vaccine will be available to everybody," Keith Martin says. "So you can get manufacturers in Senegal, and South Africa and Latin America to be able to produce this particular vaccine."

By contrast, the makers of Pfizer and Moderna, for example, are not sharing their recipe.

One drawback to the CORBEVAX technology is that it can't be modified as quickly as mRNA vaccines can to adjust to new variants.

That forces public health officials to make difficult choices.

"Something which can be adapted the fastest versus something that can be adapted relatively quickly, but then more importantly can be manufactured at a large global capacity and at a cost of production which is much lower," says Prashant Yadav, senior fellow at at the Center for Global Development in Washington, D.C. The thought is some protection may better than no protection.

Of course, the ideal vaccine would have both qualities, and Peter Hotez is at work trying to develop technologies that can do that.

"There's no issue with pushing innovation," he says. "I think that's one of the really positive features of the U.S. vaccination program for COVID. The problem was it wasn't balanced with a portfolio or oldies but goodies."

Hotez is hoping his oldie but goodie will usher in a brighter future for the world.


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