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So true on the "harassed" part, but the only person LB is thrashing is himself.

Self immolation seems to be a thing for a few on here, and LLbobby is a perfect example.







....I still wanna use pencil boolits in a 6.5x55 swede for elk........

Nah, Bobby Brown was at least a cool Frank Zappa song. LB is just a turd in the punch bowl.

Pharm, I've always admired your dedication to the 7-08, and the good use you put it to! It "speaks" to you like the 308 does to me. Really, that's about all a guy needs to know about any cartridge. As Finn Aagaard said, "the 7-08 possibly makes the optimum use of the 308 case." And yet Finn was a 308 guy, not a 7-08 guy. I get and like the 7-08 on paper, I just prefer the un-fussiness of the 308.

See what I did there

Brad,

Just realized I am pretty much the same way. Have owned and hunted with at least three 7mm-08s, and though they (obviously) all worked great, they eventually disappeared--while using several .308s, including my favorite, acquired almost 20 years ago, a Merkel single-shot.

My last 7mm-08 "disappeared" by being rechambered to .284 Winchester--which I am certain doesn't have any real-world advantages, but was worth writing about.

Mule Deer

Enjoyed your article on the .284. I have one in the Winchester Mod. 88, but have always wanted one in a bolt action. Rechambering might be the best option for me too. I have also carried mine elk hunting but didn't get a shot yet with it. Does great on deer like so many others.

Glad you liked the article!

Like many rifle loonies, I tend to play with a bunch of different rifles and cartridges. Must admit that anymore much of it just that, playing--though partly because I get paid to "play." But tend to prefer actually finding out, instead of guessing...

I sometimes wonder if Rick doesn't "encourage" sophomoric, profane, insulting posters like Stick, LB,etc. because it increases the post count and the corresponding revenue.

I doubt it--partly because I doubt you'll see much more of LB....

Sounds ominous

If I had picked up the parent first, instead of the child, I’d likely be where you are now.

Realistically, ain’t nothing gonna know it was shot by a .308 or a 7mm-08.

Good bullet, proper velocity, good placement. The rest is hot air.

Fun to discuss, however.




P

Well, we can hope. Reading this thread, I kept thinking "Goodness, what does it TAKE to get banned on this site?"
We shouldn't need rules keeping us civil - that ought to be normal human behavior - but we have it codified as rule #1 on this forum:

1] Please be respectful of other posters at all times. The ability to refrain from personal attacks, obscenities, and flame wars is a minimum requirement for a log at the Campfire.

That said, how can Big Stick still have an account here? I put that guy on ignore long ago but still sometimes get forced to see his drivel when he gets quoted by others, and he almost always belittles and calls others really bad names in every post. I guess rule #1 doesn't mean much if you're him.

Back to the subject though...
I've never killed an elk with a 30-06 but I believe it's a fine round to do so. I have only killed three elk with a rifle - two bulls with the .35 Whelen AI and one cow with the .358 Win. All worked great. But I did kill a large NM bull bison with a 180 Partition in the 30-06, and it worked great, just like I reckon it would have on each of those elk.

Just my two cents.
Rex

Hmmm…… maybe an alpaca.

Rex,

When was the last time you saw Big Stick on this forum?

Am not talking about the Campfire, but ATGW?

I imagine that a 24hcf user may be restricted from posting in selected sub-forums. Hence, no BS and could be LB, posting in this forum. Great news!

Mule Deer:

I also enjoyed your article on the .284, even though I've never had one and likely never will. I'm still curious to learn about rifles and cartridges, even those I'll never experience. I also happened to notice that just two issues before your article was published, one of your colleagues wrote about the .22-284. In it, he disparaged the .284, claiming it would only get 3,000 fps with a 120-grain bullet, or only 2800 with a 150. I had read that article but not given it much thought when that issue arrived, but after re-reading that particular magazine while bored last week I caught the reference to the .284. My curiosity piqued, I then re-checked your results, and noticed you got 300 and 180 fps more, respectively, than your colleague's claims. Like you said above, sometimes rifle loonies just have to know rather than guess. I realize that data obtained by different people with different rifles does not, and should not, always agree, but I've always appreciated your common use of the phrase--when making a claim--that "I know this because . . ." followed by an explanation of something that you actually experienced rather than something you just heard or read about. You make a claim, and then cite evidence to support it. Evidence obtained by playing around with rifles is, after all, still evidence.

Anyway, didn't plan to own a .284 before reading the article, and don't plan to now, but it was still a very informative and enjoyable article. Kind of like enjoying a trip you didn't actually take, if that makes any sense.

Greg Perry

What a shame. I was just starting to warm up to the guy.

Sounds Promising to me.

Jerry

Another fella that enjoyed the 284 article while,like gapery59, having never owned or particularly wanted to own one. Curiously enough, I do have a box of hand loads for one in the truck right now. One of the fellow hunting camp kids forgot it in the console after second weekend deer season. Yes, we are all old enough to suffer from occasional CRS.

What’s the deal with Stick? He seems very knowledgeable but his writing skills are that of a 10 year old Bowery Boy.
I went back (just for the hell of it) and he was never like that. What happened?