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I'd just re-barrel the action and sell the .358 barrel. McGowan builds prefits. I bought a 6.8 SPC prefit for a Ruger 77 and it shoots great. They are fairly inexpensive.
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I would think he owes you a complete rifle, or a refund in dollars of the value of a complete rifle.
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Is what it is. Choosing to rebore versus rebarrel began as a game of chance. If it was mine I wouldn’t be upset and would continue to use JES.
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I would think he owes you a complete rifle, or a refund in dollars of the value of a complete rifle. I'd disagree. There are no guarantees when reboring, you don't know what you might run into when drill and rifle. He could've run into an inclusion or other unforseen issues. The fact that he bored & rifled to to 35 cal at least leaves a useable barrel. On the whole, I'm not a huge fan of reboring unless the barrel in question is unique and not easily replicated. I have a 27" Octagon barrel with integral sights in 8x57. The bore is frosted and it shoots but I'll eventually have it rebored to 9,3mm.
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I’ve pm’ed the op about trading for a 243 Rem. 700 barreled action
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Not denied. Just delayed.
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Brandon, Dude270 on here was looking for a .358Win. Might PM him if the other offers don’t pan out.
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I’m targeting 250-300 lb bucks on the hoof so I’ll roll all day with a Rem 700 in 358 win. Already have an aftermarket composite stock to drop it in to.
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I would think he owes you a complete rifle, or a refund in dollars of the value of a complete rifle. This is just crazy. I spoke with JES today, and he indicated that the bore job just didn't look right to him....hence the reason he went up the .358. I can't recall the exact wordage, but he basically stated it would have likely been fine as it was, but he didn't want to take a chance. I'm satisfied with his response, and 100% content with his handling of the situation. As far as rebarreling, there is no way to do this job for $500. The barrel blank is $300, and 'smith work is a minimum of $300...and there is no way I am having a rifle rebarreled without the action being worked (that's another $200). Then, I'm not putting a trued action/rebarrel into an ADL stock, so $300 more for a nice stock. Nope, I'm happy with the $250 rebore.
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This from Wayne York’s site:
Please Note: If you are considering having your rifle rebored to a larger caliber you need to know that there is some customer assumed risk! Seldom are there any problems associated with the process, but, you need to understand that occasionally we do lose a barrel during the rebore. Issues such as porosity or slag inclusions are beyond our control. We do not know exactly what the steel content is in factory barrels. Each manufacturer specifies their own mix of steel, and seem to change those specifications at irregular intervals. Most modern steels cut smoothly and cleanly, but some do not.
I believe I’ve seen a similar disclaimer from Dan Pederson. Stuff happens. At least our OP got back a usable rifle instead of a wreck in a box.
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I was going to suggest finding someone to swap barreled actions with the OP and it looks like Alwaysoutdoors did just that. Good work!!!
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you need to look at the douglas web site 525.00 for the barrel and install with the action squared up you can upgrade to stainless for 75 more
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Can't say nothin' bad bout JES around here..... He does no wrong. You take your .358 and like it....
At least he didn't send you a bad bore job, and when you called him to discuss bad bore job he blames your hand loads and says fire factory ammo in it... so you strap it to a fence post knowing the factory ammo you have for it is probably going to blow it up since your hand loads are getting 3000 FPS when they should be doing 2700, so you know the factory ammo that is supposed to be doing 2900 in your gun is probably going to be doing close to 4K from a .35 Whelen. Sure enough, when you touch it off it goes boom. Then when you send him the gun to fix all he does is supply you an old POS 2 groove barrel that is cross threaded in the receiver with no rebore unless you pay him full price for the next one. I'm glad he's at least gotten past that solution...
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I’ve a mint 88’ from the Ol lady’s granddaddy, 308, having a real hard time not havin er converted santiam style.. damn
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😳 Justahunter: sounds like schit show for sure.
I paid for an accuracy guarantee from a well known smith once. Gun shot like schit. He claimed it shot one hole group. I said it shot 2". He told me to pound sand and sue him. Sent gun back to barrel maker. They agreed gun shot like schit and rebuilt it.
Now I try and buy Tikkas when possible.
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So he sent the rifle back with the wrong chamber and the wrong bore and refunded your cost of the rebore....
No.....he's short on the refund
He owes you another barrel.
I own a small machine shop
I can't send substandard parts to a customer that supplied materials cut incorrectly with a sorry statement.
Bare minimum I would have to refund or replace material and eat my time.
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Well, that's one opinion...just not my opinion.
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$750 and they risk their reputation being trashed on the web? I’ve ate $10k to cover employees mistakes, lost $10k to [bleep] bag customers going bankrupt too. Cost of doing business. I’d thought hard about sending an ‘06 for reboreing to 9.3x62. That ain’t happening now.
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I’m [bleep] and drunk… 😂😂😂
Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
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Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ain’t easy havin pals.
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