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I'm a fan of the super slim handguard myself Me too
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Brands to stay away from: Bear Creak Radical
I agree 100%... NO Bear Creak and NO Radical
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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Hearing peoples opinions on manufacturers to avoid is probably more valuable to me than hearing what people prefer. I will definitely take those two off of the list
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If you are just having fun... do a PSA. Barrel should last you a good long while 3k+ rounds or so. Very cost effective.
If you plan to really abuse the gun get a better barrel. I forget, but maybe it was Shaw?
Couple of friends were bragging on a particular brand holding up very well after 10k-15k rounds. Anyone help me out here?
I do recall the barrel was 3 times more expensive than most.
I'll get back to this after I talk to Chris and Tycen.
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I've built a ton of guns with cheap Green Mountain blanks... vast majority of these guns will never see 2k rounds... fantastic accuracy for $100 blanks... they just don't last forever.
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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Hearing peoples opinions on manufacturers to avoid is probably more valuable to me than hearing what people prefer. I will definitely take those two off of the list did I miss the caliber ? 5.56 or BLK ?
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did I miss the caliber ?
5.56 or BLK ?
If I build a pistol it will be 5.56 with a 223 wylde Barrel… If I build a predator rifle I’m not quite sure what caliber I’lldo yet…
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If you are just having fun... do a PSA. Barrel should last you a good long while 3k+ rounds or so. Very cost effective.
No matter what I build, it will never see over 3000 rounds, pretty sure of that
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I have built ARs in 9mm, 45acp, .460 Rowland
.223, 6x45, .300 B/O, 358 Macho (before .350 Legend can about), 375 SOCOM, .458 SOCOM (AVOID Wilson Combat on either SOCOM).
.308 Winchester, .338 Federal, .358 Winchester, .375 Raptor and .458 Lott (yes, I said that right)...
It is VERY addictive.
HAVE FUN!
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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If you are just having fun... do a PSA. Barrel should last you a good long while 3k+ rounds or so. Very cost effective.
No matter what I build, it will never see over 3000 rounds, pretty sure of that Fair enough... It's not that the barrel will be toast at 3k... it will just have waning accuracy. 3k is a lot of rounds IMHO.
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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3k is a lot of rounds IMHO. Agreed haha. I don’t think I have fired 3000 rounds through all of my hunting guns combined 🤷🏼♂️
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If you are just having fun... do a PSA. Barrel should last you a good long while 3k+ rounds or so. Very cost effective.
If you plan to really abuse the gun get a better barrel. I forget, but maybe it was Shaw?
Couple of friends were bragging on a particular brand holding up very well after 10k-15k rounds. Anyone help me out here?
I do recall the barrel was 3 times more expensive than most.
I'll get back to this after I talk to Chris and Tycen.
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I've built a ton of guns with cheap Green Mountain blanks... vast majority of these guns will never see 2k rounds... fantastic accuracy for $100 blanks... they just don't last forever.
How long ago was this? Was this 10k-15k rds done over a couple yrs? Or in one yr? 10k-15k is a lot rds if it was done in a year.. I’m about to embark on a somewhat 1K rd one day torture test on a cheap AR build I’m doing.. hopefully all the parts show up next week or so. Far from the 10k-15k rounds but I figure majority of AR owners will never put 1k rds through their AR. Your buddies are the exception..
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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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being a dedicated p/dog shooter prob the last 25 yrs....... Pac Nor has been my barrel of choice..Savage action & assemble myself Had a 6BR I know I ran it 12K rds over 10 yrs...now retired but still kilt dogs @ 600 yds last day in the field Shown in pic my ole 20 Vartarg (20 Fireball) 14 yrs & still running....pushing 10K rds & still flippin dogs Some barrels are better than others....Pac Nor has been good to me
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If you are just having fun... do a PSA. Barrel should last you a good long while 3k+ rounds or so. Very cost effective.
If you plan to really abuse the gun get a better barrel. I forget, but maybe it was Shaw?
Couple of friends were bragging on a particular brand holding up very well after 10k-15k rounds. Anyone help me out here?
I do recall the barrel was 3 times more expensive than most.
I'll get back to this after I talk to Chris and Tycen.
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I've built a ton of guns with cheap Green Mountain blanks... vast majority of these guns will never see 2k rounds... fantastic accuracy for $100 blanks... they just don't last forever.
It might have been a Noveske CHF chrome lined barrel… they advertise that they’re built to M249 SAW specs. To the OP, whatever you do, don’t waste a bunch of money on a high end lower… it’s just a box to hold the trigger group and magazine. The only thing you get out of a name on a lower is bragging rights (assuming the cheaper lower meets the most basic specs for pin alignment, etc)
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...10k-15k rounds but I figure majority of AR owners will never put 1k rds through their AR. Your buddies are the exception..
Chris has a mechanized (motor driven) Dillon 1050... that makes insanity WAY TO EASY sometimes.
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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It might have been a Noveske CHF chrome lined barrel… they advertise that they’re built to M249 SAW specs.
To the OP, whatever you do, don’t waste a bunch of money on a high end lower… it’s just a box to hold the trigger group and magazine. The only thing you get out of a name on a lower is bragging rights (assuming the cheaper lower meets the most basic specs for pin alignment, etc)
Noveske has tremendous reputation... chrome lined adds excellent durability. Tycen just confirmed it was a ER Shaw on a Stag... used in the torture test.
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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3k is a lot of rounds IMHO. Agreed haha. I don’t think I have fired 3000 rounds through all of my hunting guns combined 🤷🏼♂️ Sorry SP... I misread. Get a PSA upper IMHO... and spend any extra on a quality trigger. Parts kit triggers will disappoint 90% of the time.
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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being a dedicated p/dog shooter prob the last 25 yrs....... Pac Nor has been my barrel of choice..Savage action & assemble myself Had a 6BR I know I ran it 12K rds over 10 yrs...now retired but still kilt dogs @ 600 yds last day in the field Shown in pic my ole 20 Vartarg (20 Fireball) 14 yrs & still running....pushing 10K rds & still flippin dogs Some barrels are better than others....Pac Nor has been good to me Impressive durability... I would not have expected that. Thanks for the intel on Pac Nor.
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May want to shoot a pistol length upper before you decide. The blast and concussion from them can be pretty bad without at least a blast can.
First build, I’d suggest a 16” barrel, mid length gas. PSA should have something for well under $1k
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I just had someone message me saying another option would be to buy an 80% lower. Not something I’m interested in at all. I don’t want to have any milling or drilling to do.
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I just had someone message me saying another option would be to buy an 80% lower. Not something I’m interested in at all. I don’t want to have any milling or drilling to do. Smart, pretty easy to have an expensive paperweight
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