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Jason280, think about this…… he would have been a lot of money ahead to communicate with you about a bad rebore, purchased a takeoff short action 700 barrel off eBay and delivered what you paid for and kept his commission cost… Why didn’t he do that?
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Quick search on the eBay revealed a few 700 short action take off barrels for well under $100…
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you need to look at the douglas web site 525.00 for the barrel and install with the action squared up you can upgrade to stainless for 75 more Doesn't Douglas do this in the white? So you'd still be on the hook for bluing?
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$750 and they risk their reputation being trashed on the web? I’ve ate $10k to cover employees mistakes, lost $10k to [bleep] bag customers going bankrupt too. Cost of doing business. I’d thought hard about sending an ‘06 for reboreing to 9.3x62. That ain’t happening now. I just can't agree with this comment. I have no hesitations about sending him another rifle. In fact, I will almost certainly be sending him another 700 and a NEF Handi Rifle to rebore in the next couple of weeks. Forcing him to rebarrel the rifle seems a little excessive to me, especially considering what I got out of the deal. I ended up with a rifle I will have no trouble selling (for more than I could before) or trading, all at no cost to myself. It would be one thing if I had waited on this rifle for 6+ months, but it took less than 3-4 weeks.
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Jason280, think about this…… he would have been a lot of money ahead to communicate with you about a bad rebore, purchased a takeoff short action 700 barrel off eBay and delivered what you paid for and kept his commission cost… Why didn’t he do that?
Todd Because then he's responsible (and liable) for the *random* Ebay barrel and how it shoots ... on top of what he's already responsible for?
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There are a couple here who are really invested in wanting me to be "upset" about this whole thing. I completely understand Todd's experience, but his experience is simply not the same as mine.
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Jason280, think about this…… he would have been a lot of money ahead to communicate with you about a bad rebore, purchased a takeoff short action 700 barrel off eBay and delivered what you paid for and kept his commission cost… Why didn’t he do that?
Todd Because then he's responsible (and liable) for the *random* Ebay barrel and how it shoots ... on top of what he's already responsible for? Some are without a clue.
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There are a couple here who are really invested in wanting me to be "upset" about this whole thing. I completely understand Todd's experience, but his experience is simply not the same as mine. I know nothing about his experience, though it sounds like a dumpsterfire, so this isn't directed at him. But there are definitely people on the forum who just dislike the idea of budget rebores from JES and I've always assumed some of it has to do with most of them shooting just as well as the $1000 rebarrel job, or well enough for hunting to make zero difference.
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For $1295, I would just get Nine Run Gun to build me a .338 on a 700 action.
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There are a couple here who are really invested in wanting me to be "upset" about this whole thing. I completely understand Todd's experience, but his experience is simply not the same as mine. I wish you the best with what you recieved but as I said earlier.... He owes you the cost of another barrel
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I believe JES to be a good guy, he made sure you could at least sell or use the one that went bad due to slag…
You could send him a new barrel to work and He’d probably knock down the cost for you on that one, frankly he’s got a decent number of hours in the old work… so both parties should try to make things work out … stuff happens folks..
At the end of the day sleeping well is a good thing folks.
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You couldn't give me thirty .243 barrels for that .358. I've seen things.
I'd hunt it.
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Why do you guys act like a used M700 barrel has value in the first place? Most go in the trash after a smith pulls it to put on a real barrel. It's not like the smith ruined a Krieger or Brux...
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I'd just order up a SS Remage barrel, buy a couple of tools and call it a day now.
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If you are JES and there is a problem with the BARREL, don't you take a pic and send it to the customer, then ask how they want to proceed?
If there was an error in the PROCESS of the rebore, that would be when you wouldn't take pictures, would bore it out to 358 and mail it back to the customer with a no charge.
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If you are JES and there is a problem with the BARREL, don't you take a pic and send it to the customer, then ask how they want to proceed?
If there was an error in the PROCESS of the rebore, that would be when you wouldn't take pictures, would bore it out to 358 and mail it back to the customer with a no charge. Maybe. Problems in the metal could be uncovered by the boring process. Most clients aren't gonna want to hear it was pre-existing. Either way, he can't send back something he thinks isn't safe.
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If you are JES and there is a problem with the BARREL, don't you take a pic and send it to the customer, then ask how they want to proceed?
If there was an error in the PROCESS of the rebore, that would be when you wouldn't take pictures, would bore it out to 358 and mail it back to the customer with a no charge. Maybe. Problems in the metal could be uncovered by the boring process. Most clients aren't gonna want to hear it was pre-existing. Either way, he can't send back something he thinks isn't safe. I would still call. If I order veal at a restaurant and they are out, I wouldn't be happy if I waited 40 minutes for them to bring me chicken. I just can't imagine not talking to the customer.
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If you are JES and there is a problem with the BARREL, don't you take a pic and send it to the customer, then ask how they want to proceed?
If there was an error in the PROCESS of the rebore, that would be when you wouldn't take pictures, would bore it out to 358 and mail it back to the customer with a no charge. Maybe. Problems in the metal could be uncovered by the boring process. Most clients aren't gonna want to hear it was pre-existing. Either way, he can't send back something he thinks isn't safe. I would still call. If I order veal at a restaurant and they are out, I wouldn't be happy if I waited 40 minutes for them to bring me chicken. I just can't imagine not talking to the customer. Totally agree on the phone call.
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When’s the last time you all sent a rifle off to be rebarreled by a competent gunsmith? Local guy up here charges $600 plus cost of barrel. Which hell minimum for a good barrel $330 bucks. So a grand to rebarrel a rifle… ol boy can sell that 358 right now, wander on down to sportsmans warehouse or wherever pick up a new 700 adl for $500 and still be ahead. With a rebore vs rebarrel job.. When's the last time you saw a 700 on the shelf for 500? Local Cabelas has a USED Ruger 10/22 on the shelf for 599.00 I've never seen these mythical cheap 700s and less so over the last 2-3 years. Ok $519 at sportsmans warehouse
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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