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JB you must immediately replace that scope with a 3-30x50 dialer. Game animals of today simply more tenacious & much farther away than they have ever been in the history of human hunting experiences. 😜
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Just bought another .30-06 today--which has a 2-1/2X scope! Now am wondering if I can actually hit anything with it! (Though killed quite a few big game animals with 2-1/2x and 3x scopes back in the Stone Age....) I believe you'll manage. A few days ago I was verifying a load for one of my 308s, in this case a Remington 700 XCR LRT barreled action set into a 700 5R Milspec stock. The scope was a 1.5-4x20 with a duplex reticle. It was set to 4x. My target at 300 yards was a 4" dot and I fired a five shot group just under 1 7/8" center to center. The cartridges were assembled with thrown charges of IMR4064. Unless the reticle is ill suited the chest of a deer shouldn't present a severe challenge for 2.5x.
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You'd think he was from Louisiana the way he crawfishes.... You aren't nothing but a POS troll. Go back under your rock bridge I'd be mad too if I thought a Track scope was equal to a Schmidt and Bender.... You are a fool and have no idea about Tract scopes. You know I could call you a "fool"...but I won't because you don't need any help proving you're one.
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Just bought another .30-06 today--which has a 2-1/2X scope! Now am wondering if I can actually hit anything with it! (Though killed quite a few big game animals with 2-1/2x and 3x scopes back in the Stone Age....) I believe you'll manage. A few days ago I was verifying a load for one of my 308s, in this case a Remington 700 XCR LRT barreled action set into a 700 5R Milspec stock. The scope was a 1.5-4x20 with a duplex reticle. It was set to 4x. My target at 300 yards was a 4" dot and I fired a five shot group just under 1 7/8" center to center. The cartridges were assembled with thrown charges of IMR4064. Unless the reticle is ill suited the chest of a deer shouldn't present a severe challenge for 2.5x. That was some good shooting.
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Conditions were perfect. Good light without glare, practically zero wind. i hadn't hit the coffee pot too hard.
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I'll believe you as long as you don't say you shot it off hand....
If my memory serves me the late Jack O'Conner shot most his trophies out west with lower powered scopes at pretty long ranges..
Now days a hunter wants a rifle scope to double as a spotting scope...then when the close shot comes most aren't ready.
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I really like my Leupold FXII 4x33 and 6x36 scopes. They’ve held zero and are nice and light. Here is a 6x36 on an M70 in 7x57.
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I really like my Leupold FXII 4x33 and 6x36 scopes. They’ve held zero and are nice and light. Here is a 6x36 on an M70 in 7x57. perfect set up! and nice looking traditional rig..
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You'd think he was from Louisiana the way he crawfishes.... You aren't nothing but a POS troll. Go back under your rock bridge I'd be mad too if I thought a Track scope was equal to a Schmidt and Bender.... You are a fool and have no idea about Tract scopes. You know I could call you a "fool"...but I won't because you don't need any help proving you're one. You're so dense you need all the help.you can get so ill you out fool
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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I was looking at leopolds selection of fixed powers. A 4x28, with fine crosshairs. Not many choices these days.
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Just bought another .30-06 today--which has a 2-1/2X scope! Now am wondering if I can actually hit anything with it! (Though killed quite a few big game animals with 2-1/2x and 3x scopes back in the Stone Age....) Minute-of-BBQ. Do most of my field shooting in that range. Surprisingly, it tastes the same. GR
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You're so dense you need all the help.you can get so ill you out fool
Were trying to discuss adult things here. You think anyone can understand your childish gibberish?
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I really like my Leupold FXII 4x33 and 6x36 scopes. They’ve held zero and are nice and light. Here is a 6x36 on an M70 in 7x57. Nice set up! Are those Leupold DDs? What is the ring height? Thanks
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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You're so dense you need all the help.you can get so ill you out fool
Were trying to discuss adult things here. You think anyone can understand your childish gibberish? Adult acting you aren't, just an arrogant POS
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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Why don't you go look through your Track scope and dream of Schmidt and Bender....
Talk about a moron.....27,000+ posts by an idiot.
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Why don't you go look through your Track scope and dream of Schmidt and Bender....
Talk about morons. I own 7 S&B azz hole. Moronic POS
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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Just bought another .30-06 today--which has a 2-1/2X scope! Now am wondering if I can actually hit anything with it! (Though killed quite a few big game animals with 2-1/2x and 3x scopes back in the Stone Age....) Minute-of-BBQ. Do most of my field shooting in that range. Surprisingly, it tastes the same. GR With his track record if it's a Leupold scope I hope he takes extra ammo when he goes to shoot it.
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Today most people consider a 30-06 with a fixed 4x scope a primitive , anachronistic weapon . About like their users
Phil, Apparently I'm not as anachronistic as I used to be. Now have a 6x scope on my .30-06! I way "behind" you guys.. I hunt with a 3006 Sedgley with peep sights and 220gr RN cup and core
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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I really like my Leupold FXII 4x33 and 6x36 scopes. They’ve held zero and are nice and light. Here is a 6x36 on an M70 in 7x57. perfect set up! and nice looking traditional rig.. Very nice looking rifle. terrific chambering, love that fore end. Scope is a great fit too. I was a 6x on everything kind of guy for as long as I remember Figured having all rifles with identical magnification was a good idea....for some reason. The fixed had fewer parts and were considered more robust. The main reason though was that fixed were noticeably brighter. More recent variables, however, are just a lot brighter and feature rich at entry level than they used to be. For me a good, fully multicoated ( which is pretty much most of them these days) fairly recent variable gets me well past legal shooting hours. Burris e1 and Leupold Vx-3 for instance. The surprise to me was how much more I prefer going in to the field at 3 or 4x for a wider field of view. Most folks tend to consider the upper magnification as more help for target shooting but in the field lower is an unsung benefit to me. I still have 6x that the purist in me enjoys but if getting replaced will go to variables as I feel they offer more for me- if I am being honest with myself.
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Never owned a fixed power till I bought a mid sixties sav 99 with a M8 4x on it with weaver tip offs. Verrrry cool! It doesn’t gather as much light as the new stuff, but it works fine for my eyes till close of shooting hours, and for where I hunt, the magnification is ideal. If it broke tomorrow I’d be looking for another fixed 4x for it. Changed my opinion of fixed power glass.
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