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Years ago, I had to read a book for a college course called ‘Man’s Search for Meaning’ by Viktor Frankl. He was a psychologist and MD who was chosen to assist in medical experimentation in the camps, and while there, he made observations of the differences between those who survived and those who did not, all within the context of the horrors of the camps. It’s a fascinating book and puts a face on the statistics, and brings a human side to the history. I recommend it for those interested.

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2 things I didn’t really know until the last couple years. That the nazis got locals in the countries they conquered to carry out much of it. There were collaborators who did much of the dirty work. Few were actually held accountable. It was mainly the more famous or note worthy who were prosecuted for war crimes. The rest got away with it. The cooperation and scale of those involved went way past the nazis.

No but Bayer was that’s who manufactured Zyklon B

Got nothing bad to say about jewish people or Israelis in general.

If your a liberal Socialist democrat it dont matter what color you are or what religon you might profess to be.
You are a POS in my veiw.

Don't like threads like this due to the innuendo or hatred.

And that coming from a azzhole like me.

Best company commander tactically and technically proficent wise I served under was a jewish cat.
Some of the best soldiers I had under me where jewish cats.

None of em stick in my mind as schitbirds and it is human nature to remember the bad far more clearly than the good.

Dated a Jewish girl of polish immigrants to here.
Her grandparents had the inside the left arm tat.
Meet em at a Jewish / polish wedding.
They loved me dating their granddaughter.


The Israelis been kicking Haji,s azz for a long time.
Thats what stands out in my mind.
All the issues people have with that and with Israel in general.
Well thats their opinon.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Alot dont understand that saying and have not lived or experienced the multitudes of connections to it....

Too each their own.....

Bayer and I.G. Farben..

We broke the German's secret communication code in 1941. Not one mention was heard about the construction or use of homicidal gas chambers. The only structure currently claimed to have been used for that was in Auschwitz, which was in Soviet hands from the day of capture till the end of the Cold War. Today, they admit that it was a multi-use building during the war, and was altered after the war to appear to have been a crude gas chamber, in order to justify harsh post-war treatment of Germans and Germany.

Additionally, that structure could not even function as the Soviets designed it to function, if the German objective was to create a structure for killing people with Zyklon B gas. Zyklon B was a common pesticide, in constant use during WWII for controlling lice, which were known to be the cause of typhus. The Germans knew perfectly well how to construct buildings for the use of Zyklon B, as each camp had perfectly well functioning, and safe, fumigation chambers for clothing. Those chambers were properly sealed against leakage, with specially designed rubber-sealed doors, and no windows, and no one claims people were killed in them. The supposed Auschwitz homicidal gas chamber (constructed by the Russians after the war as a prop) had ordinary glass windows and an unsealed door (just a regular door). Furthermore, that door opened inwards, which makes no sense if it was to a homicidal gas chamber, since after murdering people in there, you wouldn't be able to open the door for the bodies in the way.

Supposedly, Germans just tossed the Zyklon B pellets into the room from ports in the roof, constructed by the Germans just for this purpose. Two problems with that: 1) that's not how Zyklon B works. It needs to be placed in a specially designed machine to heat it up to high temperatures, which causes the pellets to release their gas. The machine then blows the gas into the fumigation chamber where clothes are hung, which machines the Germans knew perfectly well how to construct and use, since they used them in their clothes fumigation chambers. And 2) The Russians today admit that those ports were additions they made to the building to further the claim that it was used by the Germans as a homicidal gas chamber (They claim, in way of justification, that it was a "reconstruction" rather than a prop). Nothing about the homicidal gas chamber claims about Auschwitz stand up to even the slightest scrutiny. Many died in the camps, but it wasn't from gas chambers.

Records indicate a serious problem with lice and typhus in the camps during the last months of the war, which, combined with malnutrition, overcrowding, and the absence of medical supplies (supply lines had been severed by Allied bombing), killed many thousands of prisoners (more Roman Catholics than Jews, incidentally). Many of the photos of huge numbers of dead bodies, supposedly of gas chamber victims, were actually images of victims of Allied bombing, often accidentally targeting camps and hospitals, not to mention trains filled with prisoners wrongly thought by the Allied pilots to be transporting war supplies.

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Supply chain disruption, all a big misunderstanding, Russians.

Oh boy TRH, you have got yourself a serious case of denial.

Odd that the International Red Cross had access to all the camps, made regular inspections, including inmate interviews, and never noticed the human extermination program going on.

Many Jews who waited too long and who couldn’t get to the UK, France, or the US because of quotas, fled on cargo ships to Shanghai, China which became quite an international mix of peoples. Eventually, Shanghai came under Japanese control and, interestingly, they were not the monsters the Germans were. They tolerated the Jews, and even befriended those who came to work fo them.

Not that the Jews there had a cakewalk.

An understatement. I've personally handled official German records of extermination. Living in Miami, I knew quite a bit of Holocaust survivors and when I found names\, often-times I'd cross checked them with their surviving relatives and they would corroborate. Further, the likes of Speer, Goring and of course Eichman ALL verified the history. Not to mention the financial records of Bayer, IG Farben, etc with clear proof they were in contract with the government to provide the gas. If for no other reason, it was the GERMANS who were in charge of this. They kept meticulous records and it's all there.

To cite the Red Cross as a source (who were continually duped by the Germans even whey they visited the Luftstalags) is laughable...then again...7kookery tends to numb the senses.

Remarkable!!

Yeah...how did they get all those Jews to lie the same?

That's wild.

TRH.....
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Still trying to sort out the truth here..... facts? I don't think so.
I wonder how the "Germans" can fight a 360 degree war and have enough resources to carry out the duty's of extermination, unfettered.
If it did happen then the number of 6 million could be off by millions. Knowing who gets to write or re-write history makes for sketchy facts, just saying.

"just saying" is the typical retort when there's no valid counter argument. The answer to your question is to READ and specifically, the number was 5,968, 672 if memory serves. The Germans kept very good records. Speaking of reading, you might want to start with Inside the Third Reich by Albert Speer.
Another good one although it covers German history going back to the 1600s, is The Arms Of Krupp" by William Manchester, both go into verifiable detail about the camps, extermination and slave labor..The Allgemeine-SS and the SS-Totenkopfverbände (SS-TV), had more than enough to cover..Not to be confused with the WAFFEN SS...

My friend Sylvester on one my construction jobs used to say

“fsthey sdidnt skill sno six smillion joos...sthey only skilled a scouplea sssthousan, sis all a buncha bullshît”

There’s a reason we called him Slyvester

If the Jews didn't die in the camps........ Where did they all go? Well over 3/4 of the Jews in The Netherlands were not there after WW2. Where did they go?

The more I've learned about the holocost™, and the narrative published about it...is that it's about as truthful as our current pandemic.

New Yawk and Floorduh

The World Almanac of 1948 recorded that the world population of Jews increased between 1933 and 1948 from 15,315,000 to 15,753,000. The International Red Cross, in a comprehensive report released in Geneva in 1948, concluded that approximately 272,000 concentration camp inmates died in German custody, about half of whom (according to the report) were Jews, almost all during the latter months of the war.

During that time period, there were massive migrations of people throughout Europe, many ending up in Soviet occupied territory by the end of the war, never to be heard from again outside the Iron Curtain. It's likely that separated sides of Jewish families assumed that those who were actually (unknown to them) on the opposite side of the Iron Curtain had been killed.