Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters Any states soon to follow CA in lead free ammo?

If Oregon banned it, the Potland crowd would follow, but beyond that.... you see Fish and Game or Federal Rangers out like the first day of the season.... more like trying to hand out tickets for not wearing your seat belt on Forest Service roads.... 25 and 30 miles in the back country....

after that, they seem to go back to the office and disappear until next season...

most people in rural Oregon, which is most of the state...... don't comply with much of anything....that comes out of Salem...
mainly due to the lack of presence of LEOs....

Polls show that to date...no animals have been killed with it yet, although many have been shot at.

Around here,wind turbines are killing more birds than lead bullets

flintlocke,

I tested CCI .22 LR, along with Winchester .22 Magnum and CCI .17 HMR lead-free ammo, a LOT a few years ago for an article in RIFLE magazine, both for accuracy and effect on animals. This was partly done because bunch of subscribers live in California, and were asking questions.

It was "gopher" season in this part of Montana--Richardson's ground squirrels. The .22 ammo shot well, especially in Eileen's Anschutz 54 sporter, and as far as we could tell killed gophers just like most high-velocity HP Long Rifle ammo. The 21-grain bullets did wind-drift a little more than lead HPs at longer ranges, but the 1800+ fps muzzle velocity helped considerably in trajectory at LR ranges.

The .22 Magnum ammo didn't expand much on gophers. Dunno the 30-grain bullets were designed for use on larger varmints, but I quit shooting gophers pretty quickly with it. Muzzle velocity was similar to 40-grain lead ammo, a little over 2000 fps. It shot pretty accurately in my Ruger American, but that rifle shoots just about any ammo well.

The CCI 15.5 grain .17 HMR stuff was VERY accurate and effective in my CZ 452, with a muzzle velocity of around 2600.

The article also appeared, with some updated info, as a chapter in GUN GACK III.

I have E-tips and TTSXs and other bullets for CFs, but have yet to find any LF .22s to even try.

Pappy,

If I recall correctly, I found both the .22 LR and Magnum ammo in local Montana stores, but had to order the .17 HMR stuff.

I don't mean to change the direction of this thread, but I would sure love to see lead-free recipes in reloading manuals separate from the lead data. Lead-free should have their own section due to their differences. "As this lead-free only" for hunting spreads across the country, (and I believe it will), the powder and bullet companies should tailor these loads separately.

One more thing... The environmentalists do whatever they can to get lead out of hunting. The politicians use this info to joyfully jab a stick in the eye of gun owners and hunters.

Eventually you will see lead free in all states.

I doubt that will happen before any of us posting here are still above ground....

36 here. That's why I'm asking. Still a lot of hunting left. Sounds like nothing major to change in the next 5 plus years.

Ban on bear hunting will be next. You won’t be allowed to hunt an “iconic” species!

I have seen anti lead at the sportsman’s show in California, telling me that if I cared about the game I would choose to shoot non tox as he had. This was prior to state wide prohibition on lead hunting Bullets.
Now I have seen similar propaganda in Nevada. No doubt it is a agenda.
On another note wife had a mule deer tag in CA near Mammoth a few years ago( 1st year of lead ban) We had parked the truck high on a 4 wheel tribe road. Game warden seen our truck and bee lined it for us before we started hiking. He look at my wife’s ammunition ( Barnes TTSX) and wanted to see the box. I reload was my response.”Well how am I supposed to know if they are lead or not,” was his. I pointed out the characteristics that made up a Barnes TTSX he tried looking it up on his phone. He ended up taking a round. I told him maybe the should be educated in identifying approved bullets if they were to enforce the law.
I had a bear tag he warned me, he better not catch me looking at a deer through my scope. What a putz.

I hunt ducks and deer on my own property. I'll do as I wish.

99.9 % of the Fish Cops in CA are pricks of the first magnitude.

Ban on bear hunting will be next. You won’t be allowed to hunt an “iconic” species![/quote]

I live in San Luis Obispo County where bear hunting is already banned. When they try to bring bear hunting back public pressure has stopped it. BTW, we have plenty of bears here in SLO.

99.9 % of the Fish Cops in CA are pricks of the first magnitude.[/quote]

Arizona has a few but bitch would be more appropriate as they are female.
Paul B.

I don't know why anyone cares. The Feds say you can't use lead shot on ducks, they also say pot is a Schedule 1 drug.

I don't see anyone writing tickets for all the pot heads in Oregon, but they do if you shoot a duck with a chilled load of 5's?

Screw'em

If you steal less than 1000 dollars from a store in California, you get a pass. Get caught hunting with lead bullets get a fine and lose your gun.

Which is my point. I don't give a hoot, I'll kill what I want to kill, when I want to kill. All to eat.

A man should never be fined for feeding his family.