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Good buck... more than likely.. he will have had a few years to spread his seed. Doe... probably not... she might drop a buck with the same genetic defect.
You do realize that even if that doe dropped a piebald buck fawn it would likely be miles away after the doe drove it out of her territory and it established it's own right ?
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Local legend down: Chase for White Face ends in victory for 11-year-old Ohio boyWhile most deer have black lips and noses, White Face has a white nose and lips, white hooves, and like a lot of piebald and albino deer, it has blue eyes. Tom believes the 8-pointer will score in the 140 range, but its rack size is far less important than the memories it created with him and his son, and the lessons learned in the pursuit of it.
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Another one that doesn't seem lacking in the genetics..
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Local legend down: Chase for White Face ends in victory for 11-year-old Ohio boyWhile most deer have black lips and noses, White Face has a white nose and lips, white hooves, and like a lot of piebald and albino deer, it has blue eyes. Tom believes the 8-pointer will score in the 140 range, but its rack size is far less important than the memories it created with him and his son, and the lessons learned in the pursuit of it. That's a pretty cool looking deer. Probably pretty close on the score too (not that it means a hill of beans anyway). Maybe shaman could chime in to get us an approximation.
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I personally wouldn’t kill one, but I wouldn’t shame someone that did.
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Local legend down: Chase for White Face ends in victory for 11-year-old Ohio boyWhile most deer have black lips and noses, White Face has a white nose and lips, white hooves, and like a lot of piebald and albino deer, it has blue eyes. Tom believes the 8-pointer will score in the 140 range, but its rack size is far less important than the memories it created with him and his son, and the lessons learned in the pursuit of it. That's a pretty cool looking deer. Probably pretty close on the score too (not that it means a hill of beans anyway). Maybe shaman could chime in to get us an approximation. The Rube Goldberg Ultimate B&C Scoring Machine would measure that buck well north of 200."
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Legal deer + Decent buck = Boom/Flop
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Yes I would shoot it. I would skin it and keep the hide regardless of antler size or it being a doe. Be better in the latter case cause then I could still shoot the buck I want.
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My brother has a place in northern Wi. that has a few albinos hanging around
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I’ve had two piebald deer on cam in the last dozen or so years. One ( the last one from 2-3 years ago) I saw quite often. Had him under my stand in bow season and in rifle season. No idea what ever happened to him. NEver heard of him being killed. He was an odd little guy. Short legged and very stocky. I wondered if that was a genetic trait associated with being piebald. If he shows up this year…. I honestly don’t know if I’d kill him.
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I have seen a couple, never shot one
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Good buck... more than likely.. he will have had a few years to spread his seed. Doe... probably not... she might drop a buck with the same genetic defect.
You do realize that even if that doe dropped a piebald buck fawn it would likely be miles away after the doe drove it out of her territory and it established it's own right ? Yeah, I am well aware of yearling buck dispersal.
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Back in the 50's where I hunted whitetail in PA,They were quite common.There were signs up not to shoot them. I would have if I had the opportunity. Have never seen a muley one though.
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If legal I would shoot em.
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If it was a really fine buck, yes. Here's one that went the other way Cookie caught just preseason last fall. It's no longer with us, and no, I did not have a tag. She also encountered a black fawn (born spring 2021) and a black doe (yearling born 2020) both about 20 miles away from this buck. They all seem to mingle well with the other 99.99%. In the last 8 years we think we've had encounters with at least six black examples with all but this one being does. She's yet to catch up with an albino, but we'll put some pics up when it happens. cool coloration. Never seen that before Ive seen 1/2 doz piebalds hunting and one 8 point albino. Passed and at that time it was against the law to shoot albinos.
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I've killed two piebald. Mercy killing.
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Piebald- maybe Albino-absolutely not Same here. It's interesting to hear the sentiments about shooting white deer and how it's considered bad luck by some. Around here it's said that you'll die within one year if you shoot an albino deer.
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The town of Saint Germain, Wisconsin used to have a whole herd of them wandering around the town. Don't think it was legal to shoot them. Boulder Junction too. I believe in Wisconsin Albino deer are off limits. I don’t think that applies to Piebalds however.
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A buddy hunting with me in Maine shot a piebald. An 8 pointer short of body, when the warden saw it at the check station he thanked him for killing it before it bred.
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