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As far as recoil is concerned, agree with a gas autoloader with youth stock.

With my son, it was a 20 ga 1100. When they grow up, just swap to full sized stock.

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I started my son off with a 20 gauge Remington 870 and light dove loads. For my daughter I bought a Remington 1100 for when she’s old enough to shoot. Supposedly the 1100’s are supposed to be a soft shooting gun even by autoloader standards.

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All my kids first shot gun experience has been with my old 410 single shot. I like starting them with small steps and keeping things simple, enjoyable and safe.
With rifles, all 4 kids started with a red rider BB gun, then my BL 22LR, my oldest 2 are now moving into a 243.

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870 youth model 20 ga is hard to beat.


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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
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I bought my boy a 1100 youth 20 gauge, he shot it well at 10, put a recoil pad on it when he got a little bigger for more length. My granddaughter shoots it now. She is 5’2, maybe 110 lbs.

I did the same. 1100 kicks less than single barrel or an 870.

When they grow, put on a longer stock.

We still have that gun. Boy is 42, has his own family. May be getting time to go back with the short stock Generational stuff.

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Me too. Remington 1100 20 ga was also the first shotgun dad got for me back in the late 60's. great gun. put thousands of rounds through it. Shot Dove, quail, pheasant's, chukar, rabbit, lots of clay's. Even killed a couple of deer and a few pigs with it. My kids and nephews shot one. and my grandchildren will be shooting one in a year or two. Reading these post's brings back lots of memories.

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Rem 1100 special field in a 20 ga is dream come true, 21" bbls, light weight.

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"You can spend more money on a shotgun but you can't get more shotgun for the money if you buy an 870" . I can't remember who said that but it's a quote I've always remembered. Now if I could only remember it when I decide to get another shotgun...

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Originally Posted by pete53
i started my son with a ported 20 ga. 870 Remington at age 8 then when he turned 13 i got my son a Beretta auto 390 12 ga. if i did it again i would just have got him a 12 gauge auto probably just the 390 Beretta and use 1 oz. loads. my reason is the 12 ga. auto has less recoil with 1 oz. loads than the 20 ga. pump did even with 1 oz. loads.i would have also put a gracoil recoil pad system on this shotgun so i could adjust it for length as he grew.



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Thanks for all the suggestions. Has anybody seen/used a Weatherby SA20? Or a Mossberg SA08?


I bought my son one these in 28 gauge. He still needs another year to grow into it but pretty slick little youth gun.

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We bought my boy a youth 1100 20 gauge, put a recoil pad on it when he got about 12 for extra length.

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Good points. Grew up on pumps as a kid. Lots of good memories. Taking notes as my boy has another 2 years at least then I can start looking.

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I started on a bolt action 410 and graduated to a Nobel 12ga. That sucked. Shot 2 always ended up with a bloody nose from where my thumb hit on recoil. Moved to a Rem 31 very quick.

Fit for short arms will be key.

I'd look for a soft shooting gas 12 GA and light loads.


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My dad bought me a Winchester Model 370 Youth in 20 ga when I was 8. The lightweight gun kicked like a mule and I hated pulling the trigger and developed a flinch that took years to overcome. I got a Rem 1100 12 ga when I was 12 and liked it much more. I still have the 370 but I never use it. I started my sons (3) with a single shot 410 then a Beretta 303 in 20 ga.

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Originally Posted by kstockfo
Thanks for all the suggestions. Has anybody seen/used a Weatherby SA20? Or a Mossberg SA08?
Originally Posted by kstockfo
Thanks for all the suggestions. Has anybody seen/used a Weatherby SA20? Or a Mossberg SA08?


Yup started my oldest son out with the Mossberg SA20 it has been a workhorse and I’m thinking about buying myself one. Great shotgun!

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Beretta 390 in 20ga is what they run in Argentina on the dove fields where guys can shoot 1000 shells per day. Recoil is a HUGE factor for youngsters!

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Get them going on good, modern autos now.

Benelli or Beretta.


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I agree with UPHiker. The Mossberg pumps in 20 gauge cover a lot of ground very well and work very well too. The M500 action (only in 12 gauge) is what the Navy and Marines adopted as their combat shotgun with good reasons They work VERRY well and Mossberg has a lot of features you can get to make them fit about anyone.

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Originally Posted by deflave
Get them going on good, modern autos now.

Benelli or Beretta.


Agree 100%


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Originally Posted by JOG
I just went through this for grandkids. I went with a Browning BPS Micro Midas in 20 gauge. It's not the cheapest up-front, but should work out well as time goes by. With the tang safety and bottom eject left handers won't be a problem, the LOP is 13" with two additional 1/4" spacers, and Browning offers a "growth insurance" deal that's 50% off a full size stock - which I did immediately.

The kids will have access to a nice 20 gauge for now and for life. I have a good pointing dog so for now on pheasants I'll go with 7/8 oz. 6 shot at a touch over 1200 fps.


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