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LOL whatever. I know ill listen to you and Buzz.
I know one thing for certain I saw what it was before and after the B.S wolves reintroduction and have a nephew who is a wildlife biologist who i listen and trust more than I I do some other biologist so called studies and numbers, let's all remember the lynx hair planting that biologist were caught red handed doing and if you dont think things like that haven't happened in the past.

callnum: You intentionally and in my opinion stupidly IGNORE many facts - I will just point out one of your idiotic oversights!
Elk habits have changed DRAMATICALLY since the canadian wolves were introduced here in western, northwestern and southwestern Montana!
I KNOW - because I started Hunting Big game in Montana (1969) 30 years before the horror of the transplanted canadian wolves became entrenched here!
The areas I have Hunted now for over 52 years has seen the Elk completely change much of their home-range, habits and haunts!
Yeah there are lots of Elk in some areas of western and southwestern Montana, and they have learned the only place they can exist is ON or IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT to private ranches.
Just last month I helped a friend "scout" Elk in the Madison River Valley where he indeed had 2 (two!) after regular season cow Elk tags.
We saw over 3,500 Elk one day and ALL were on and had been STAYING on private ranches - some ranches allowed Hunting and some did not. All were in wide open unforested pastures and fields!
Last I heard from him he had NOT filled either tag!
Anyway these "extra tag" (as well as MUCH of Elk Hunting in wolfy areas of Montana!) Hunts have turned into "firing line" hunting and shooting into large herds - and "hunters" breaking laws to try and haze Elk off of protected private ranches.
So many "hunters" are cited for infringing on private lands in frustration, and cited for tresspassing - our new and green motivated fish and game folks are happy to cite nowadays - I know, I see it firsthand annually now.
In recent years I have avoided recommending Elk Hunting in Montana for my friends and acquaintances from out of state - because of the aforementioned situations and the much harder Elk Hunting on public lands.
In my opinion, based on my experience, without a special tag (which are hard to get!) and without paying EXHORBITANT tresspass fees an Elk Hunter here, nowadays, has less than a third of a chance bagging an Elk as compared to pre-wolf times!
That is sad.
AND.... the Elk Hunting experience in western and southwestern Montana has been greatly diminished, quality wise, since the introduction of the canadian wolves.
And that is sad.
I shudder at the thought of what the Wolves will do to the wonderful Elk herds in Colorado!
It is inevitable and horrific.
It will be similar to what has happened here in Montana in the last 23+ years.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
P.S.: Thanks for nothing rmWf!

VG you are stupider than I thought. Didn’t think that was possible. I know plenty of guys kill elk every year on public land around Dillon. You should get out of the truck.

First like I have said before guys like you couldn’t kill elk before wolves and now still can’t and blame the wolf.

Did you ever vote for Debbie Barret? If so you are responsible for killing more elk in the state then wolves ever will.


Your0 buddy would be smart to look for someone else to help him.

callnumb: Calling names is all you have got - desperate, immature, incorrect and useless.
I'll match MY intelligence agains the likes of proven idiots like yourself ANYDAY!
If you think the Elk Hunting is better now after the canadian wolves were introduced than it was before introduction then YOU have proven yourself incorrect (and useless!) again!
callnumb let alone what the introduced canadian wolves have done to our once wonderful Moose, Mule Deer and Bighorn Sheep herds here in SW Montana.
My first Elk Hunt of the year this year was a 5 miles beyond the trailhead and a horse aided pack-in Hunt.
I have done this Hunt for many years and of late it is getting worse and worse!
This year NO Elk were brought to bag on our week long Hunt and I saw just two Moose all week - where I used to see 4 or 5 a day!
And to add insult to injury we heard wolves most every night and we saw them on two different days.
IF... YOU had an ounce of intelligence YOU would not state such ignorant and erroneous things as you have done here and so often do!
And for you to pretend to know how or where anyone you don't know Hunts, well that is just more of your idiocy over-riding common sense.
You have earned a double sheesh!
Sheesh.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

VG you are truly the dumbest fugg on the fire.

So old and stupid you don’t see the irony in whining like an old lady about name calling and then starting your dumb post by name calling. Double sheesh

I know 18 (eighteen) guys and gals that killed bulls on public all around Dillon. All boned out and in packs. Hint

You say you keep packing in to a place that is getting worse every year, duh quit going there. Elk hunting 101

So back to your road hunt in the Madison. You are suprised the elk are on private in the middle of January? It’s called winter range. So where do you expect them to be?

My advice is for you to quit hunting altogether. You are wasting your time.


Answer the question, how many times did you vote for Debbie Barret?

He is a leftard, facts mean nothing to him. Biden voters are stupid, prove me wrong.

20 years ago there were many moose in Montana near the mountains and in the mountains now there are many less . i have noticed fewer nice mule deer bucks and the population of mule deer is less it seems too ? i was a bowhunter for those 20 some years spent many days , weeks at tent camps and the one thing i did notice was the last few years there now is way more wolves howling . i have even wondered why i see less black bears too now days ? loggers in my home state say wolves will pull a bear out of his den and eat that bear still alive and sleepy because when its cold wolves need that fat to survive. some loggers tell that when they cut and harvest trees to sell many times the deer winter and eat the tops of the trees ,then wolves have moved in and killed the deer that have wintered in these areas that loggers have left . loggers tell me when they have went back there in the spring for clean up many times the carcasses of deer are still there and many of these wolf killed deer have been left untouched and only a few were eaten. yet other loggers say this when the see a larger deer carcasses : you can bet its a nice buck with good horns. that old buck will stand and fight the wolves because that buck still thinks he is a bad ass and those wolves kill him quickly.i have seen the horns the loggers collect its very sad.. so if your a biologist or their friend give them this info maybe some day the light will come on. herei n Minnesota these DNR specialist have not figured out the problem why the moose population is so low now ? but at Isle Royal island now America is bringing in to destroy the large moose population by using more wolves . this sure can be confussing ? these college educated liberals who are managing our game animals are ruining our game animals we dearly love there needs to be some common sense brought back in one way or another they are the problem .

Calldumb is one of these guys that believes that since the wolf numbers aren't affecting the elk numbers where HE hunts, the wolf must not be impacting the elk numbers any where else either.

With the invention of Al Gore's internet is real easy for most guys to track elk populations and wolf populations in every state and everywhere.

Boomers probably have a little more trouble.

callnum, I know you like to stir the pot with your liberal bullschit, but you cannot tell anyone here that adding more predators to the mix, whether its humans, wolves, or bears, doesn't impact deer and elk herds negatively. The lion numbers in my unit have blown up, and the deer are barely hanging on with a thread at this point. Adding wolves to the mix won't help.

Never said that at all.

Folks in CO are repeating the same doom and gloom that WA and OR cried, which happens to be the same as MT, ID and WY cried.

I hunt in the middle of grizzly, lion, wolf and hunter country and can kill a truck load of deer and up to 3 elk in a season that lasts 6 months. You will survive. Guys like VG and Texans will complain wolves killed everything.

A 175 pound male from Colo. came into Wyoming last week. He will not be going home.

Callnum, what state is this that amid bears, mt. lions and wolves you are covered up with elk and deer?

If bullschit were music you'd be John Philip Sousa...

Ask anyone that's weighed wolves, I bet not a single one will say they've weighed one even close to 175 lbs.

Sell crazy somewhere else....clown.

I smell rags burning...its your pants on fire.

https://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=wildlifenews.view_article&articles_id=503

I did not weight it [bleep]. Only reported what I was told. It did have a huge head on it. Sorry I offended you, you prick! So gfy!!

If you're going to pull a story out of your ass at least make it half believable... 🤡

I didn't pulled it out of my ass. Just saw the pic of a friends wolf and what they said.. Could have been wrong. Sorry I am not an authority on wolves. If it offends you great. You have to be one of the biggest a$$hole pricks on this site!

What's next the story of your doe mule deer that was as big as a cow elk?

GFY! You are not worth my time.

Come on, post up another of your favorite fairy tales...I'm sure you have some real gems.