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I have been using 170 grain Nosler partitions and like them. (In both my win 94 and Marlin 336)
Nowadays, I see a lot of hype about the Hornady 160 grain FTX.
What are your thoughts on these two bullets for mule deer within 200 yards?
Thanks!
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I've used that 160 FTX load on one blacktail, fastest drt I've ever seen.
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About any round nose 150 to 170 grain bullet.
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I've never used them. A friend did, and you could tell the expansion was rather quick. He said it was the first deer he didn't get full penetration with, and when he skinned it, the bloodshot meat was extensive.
I continue to use 170 grain Hornadys in mine, that's what the rifle prefers.
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About any round nose 150 to 170 grain bullet. True enough. My old Marlin really likes the 170 gr. Speer and it does a great job on big timber whitetail and hogs.
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I always have used the Sierra gamekings in 30-30 150 or 170 gr. They are accurate and killed great
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I've used Ftx out of my 1925 model 94 32 win special saddle ring Carbine. Seemed pretty accurate, but never shot any critters with it
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I've not had any exceptional results with the lever factory ammo or the components either one. Not any more so than the old fashioned stuff I started out with
I use the Sierra #2000 and 748 or similar powders
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The 160 FTX are accurate, cheap, and available. Shot 1/2” groups at 50 yds with my M94 at 2300 fps using LVR. I have no first hand experience on terminal effectiveness yet.
Partitions have always been first rate, but these days you need to take out a loan if you miss.
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True that!
Luckily, I bought a few extra boxes of the partitions about three years ago at less than half of what they’re asking for them now.
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I have a loaner Marlin 30-30 shooting handloaded 160 gr FTX bullets which a young boy scout in my troop has used the last two seasons to kill 4 deer. All 4 deer died very....very quickly. The 160 FTX bullet in the primary load for this Marlin now even through I have three other loads worked up from the Sierra 125 gr HP, Speer 130 gr, and the Rem 170 gr core-lokt.
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I have pretty much settled on the 170g NPT in my Win M64. It shoots 1.5" and sometime 1" at 100 yards with LVR producing 2330 fps. I have yet to shoot anything with it yet. I do have a bunch of 160g FTX's loaded up to try however.
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I’ve never used them, and wouldn’t be scared to try them on lighter deer. But, I just don’t see any advantage to them in a 30/30, and maybe some disadvantages where penetration is an even more important factor. I’ve always liked the Sierra 150 or 170 grain FN Pro Hunter in my 30/30s.
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I've never used them. A friend did, and you could tell the expansion was rather quick. He said it was the first deer he didn't get full penetration with, and when he skinned it, the bloodshot meat was extensive.
I continue to use 170 grain Hornadys in mine, that's what the rifle prefers. This is what I’ve seen when a couple of friends tried them. Dead is dead I guess. Very rapid expansion, more meat damage than traditional 30/30 bullets, and less penetration.
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About any round nose 150 to 170 grain bullet. This has been my experience with my 94 Winchesters . Deer don't seem to be able to tell the difference as the results are always the same with any bullet I use.
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I can't see wasting money on premium bullets for a .30-30 when plain old cup-n-cores work very well. Maybe if I were planning on shooting a moose with my .30-30 I'd spring for some partitions but for deer hell no.
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I can't see wasting money on premium bullets for a .30-30 when plain old cup-n-cores work very well. Maybe if I were planning on shooting a moose with my .30-30 I'd spring for some partitions but for deer hell no. I understand that, but where I hunt elk are on the menu in the timber and more and more prevalence of Grizzlies.
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I can't see wasting money on premium bullets for a .30-30 when plain old cup-n-cores work very well. Maybe if I were planning on shooting a moose with my .30-30 I'd spring for some partitions but for deer hell no. I understand that, but where I hunt elk are on the menu in the timber and more and more prevalence of Grizzlies. In that case I'd probably take my .30-06 and leave the .30-30 at home.
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That is what I have done. The 30-30 hasn't been out of the safe to go hunting in 3 years. But I do want to still take it. It is usually my .358 Win or .338-06 that I take in that country.
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Only bullet to use is Cutting Edge Bullets 130 gr. ESP Raptor with no tip....for deer best bullet made....wouldn't hesitate using it on a moose.....turns lungs into jello.... https://cuttingedgebullets.com/308-130gr-esp-raptor
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