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Total Agreement on the S&B 8x56 . Since they are coming from a European vendor are they sent back to the Fatherland for repair or done in Virginia?

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S&B made a 7x50 fixed up until a year or so ago. Always wanted to try one.

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Originally Posted by koshkin
A few comments:

-This comes up again and again, so I will just clarify that exit pupil does not mean anything for Ringmaster's eyes. For human eyes, it makes a significant difference.

-It is incorrect that your eye can not use an exit pupil larger than the eye pupil. It can and it does, by moving slightly and superimposing images in your brain for greater detail and contrast comprehension. There is, of course a limit to how larger of an exit pupil you can use and the compromise (for variable scopes) is between exit pupil and magnification. As the light gets lower and your eye pupils dilate, the exit pupil takes on an increasingly greater importance.

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I see your second paragraph doesn't support your first.

An optic with lesser quality may have a better exit pupil than a better optic. But all you get is a brighter unresolved image.


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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
Total Agreement on the S&B 8x56 . Since they are coming from a European vendor are they sent back to the Fatherland for repair or done in Virginia?


Other than reticle changes and the most minor of things, the majority of repairs are done in Germany anyway -- that coming directly from S&B. Even removing a speck of internal debris from a model purchased here in the US required a trip across the pond.

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Originally Posted by Ringman

An optic with lesser quality may have a better exit pupil than a better optic. But all you get is a brighter unresolved image.


I'm not going to get into a detailed debate with you, but your claim makes no sense. A larger exit pupil never guarantees a "brighter" image.

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Originally Posted by BobbyTomek
Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
Total Agreement on the S&B 8x56 . Since they are coming from a European vendor are they sent back to the Fatherland for repair or done in Virginia?


Other than reticle changes and the most minor of things, the majority of repairs are done in Germany anyway -- that coming directly from S&B. Even removing a speck of internal debris from a model purchased here in the US required a trip across the pond.


I should have worded my question differently, are they warrantied? Thinking S&B would take care of any issues on a Euro bought scope sold in the states but it would piss off Eurooptics most likely.

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A used Zeiss 6-24x72?
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Originally Posted by BobbyTomek
Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
Total Agreement on the S&B 8x56 . Since they are coming from a European vendor are they sent back to the Fatherland for repair or done in Virginia?


Other than reticle changes and the most minor of things, the majority of repairs are done in Germany anyway -- that coming directly from S&B. Even removing a speck of internal debris from a model purchased here in the US required a trip across the pond.

BT.
The only time I've used S&B service was several years ago on a 4-16x50 PMII .
The windage knob was hard to turn and it was difficult to actually get it to go to the number on the dial you wanted.
Called VA. And described the problem.
Sent it in on a Monday and got it back the following Monday. The note in the box said they replaced the windage erector spring.
No Charge.
Thinking there wasn't enough time to get it to krautland and back....
For this past season I bought a 8x56 for 709.00 delivered from optics trade.
The very first thing I did was call Va. And ask about service
On a 8x56 that's made in Hungary.
I was told that it did not go to krautland for service.
Was told that the Hungarian made models were covered by the same warranty used the same parts and were serviced in Virginia.
In my mind the 8x56 is the sleeper scope.
For price and weight it's difficult to best.
One of the very best Schmidts I've owned for monkeying around in the dark was a 3-12x50 PMII.
This was a non AO model that was parallax free at 250 meters.Just amazing in the dark . To my eyes the best I have and I compared it to the other eight I own.
But the thing Weighs 30 plus ounces......
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Well. Thank you everyone for your input. I ordered an 8X56 S&B Klassik from optics-trade! Only spent a touch over half often budget so now I need to start looking at binoculars. I’ve got a $550 head start on saving up for those. Got the scope for $750 with shipping.

Optics trade said it will ship in “One month or longer”. Does anyone have any experience on how long that might actually be?

I’m still probably 6 to 8 weeks from having my rifle build finished. So no real hurry.

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Originally Posted by MosesTucker
Well. Thank you everyone for your input. I ordered an 8X56 S&B Klassik from optics-trade! Only spent a touch over half often budget so now I need to start looking at binoculars. I’ve got a $550 head start on saving up for those. Got the scope for $750 with shipping.

Optics trade said it will ship in “One month or longer”. Does anyone have any experience on how long that might actually be?

I’m still probably 6 to 8 weeks from having my rifle build finished. So no real hurry.



A previous order for a 6x42 with them was almost exactly what the quoted time frame was until it was shipped. I don't remember what the time quote said but I do remember that it was right on time. Shipping took a little while but it was trackable. Really it was a painless order since I wasn't in a rush.

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I recently ordered an 8x56 S&B from optics trade, and was quoted 1 month or longer. I got it exactly one month after placing the order.

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I wonder how the meopro plus 8x56 binoculars will be for this application?



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Originally Posted by Northman
A used Zeiss 6-24x72?
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Shew....looks like an Elephant riding a tricycle.

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Originally Posted by jwp475
S&B Polar or PMll are as good as it gets.


I think JWP nailed it. S&B makes a 8x56 that is pretty slick if you aren't worried about uber close and quick shooting. Dave7mm used his to good effect this past fall.


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The credit card company was more of a problem than optics trade.
At first I wasn't up for sending my CC information to Slovenia. But it worked. Getting the CC company to clear it was the problem.
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Probably costs as much as an elephant on a tricycle.

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Originally Posted by spence1875
S&B made a 7x50 fixed up until a year or so ago. Always wanted to try one.

Me too

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Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC

A previous order for a 6x42 with them was almost exactly what the quoted time frame was until it was shipped. I don't remember what the time quote said but I do remember that it was right on time. Shipping took a little while but it was trackable. Really it was a painless order since I wasn't in a rush.


I am super interested in a 6x42 S&B for an all-arounder 30 06. What can you tell me about it?

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Originally Posted by MosesTucker
Only spent a touch over half often budget so now I need to start looking at binoculars. I’ve got a $550 head start on saving up for those.

Are you going to start a thread for binoculars? It's been a while since I've purchased any binos and it will be interesting to see what folks recommend,

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