24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 60
J
Jim2914 Offline OP
Campfire Greenhorn
OP Offline
Campfire Greenhorn
J
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 60
I have a model 70 in 270.
I asked my local dealer why the bolt was different over other model 70 pre 64 he said it was due to early manufacturing of the 270 this one is 1946
Does this sound correct?

Attached Images
GB1

Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 23,527
Likes: 2
7
79S Offline
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
7
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 23,527
Likes: 2
Someone buff the bluing off the bolt? Because I’m 99.9% pretty sure they didn’t come from Winchester like that.. and the bolt looks like it’s been jeweled..

Last edited by 79S; 02/07/22.

Originally Posted by Bricktop
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.

Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 5,503
Likes: 3
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 5,503
Likes: 3
The bolt has been jeweled.

Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,189
Campfire Regular
Online Content
Campfire Regular
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,189
Are you talking about the safety? If so, yours is a pre war configuration also indicated by the shape of the tang; post war safety and tangs are different.
Phil

Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,473
Likes: 5
I
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
I
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,473
Likes: 5
The 'net answer a plus one to above TenX. to add that it also exhibits originality considered very favorable by collectors, not 'observably drilled or tapped bridge for scope mounting. Pre '64 Model 70 Standard Model bolts were always "in the white" throughout production.
The jeweling could have been factory special order and was factually, to recollection, standard 'original' on such "Super Grade" Models. The "Catch 22" nowadays, no Factory "Special Order" records exist nowadays to provide collector-mandated "provenance" of such feature. Therefore de facto, all such condemned as aftermarket alteration.

IF the rifle is otherwise original, it could achieve appearance-restored originality by removing the jeweling or simply acceptable to some collectors IF professionally accomplished and the rifle otherwise collector worthy!

Beyond D&T the second most common non-original condemning feature, recoil pad installation. In such a rifle of early postwar era, central features of a Winchester factor original pad, red in color, "Winchester" marking AND badly deteriorated due to age!

Hope all this helps!
John

IC B2

Joined: May 2010
Posts: 7,380
Likes: 2
P
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
P
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 7,380
Likes: 2

John,
Pre-64 bolts were always blued and were never supplied in the white, also prior to 1954 SG bolts were not routinely jeweled/engine turned.
The bolt on the op’s gun was polished. Another consideration is that the factory electro-penciled S/N may have been obliterated by the jeweling.


"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
Hunter S. Thompson
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 60
J
Jim2914 Offline OP
Campfire Greenhorn
OP Offline
Campfire Greenhorn
J
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 60
Thanks,
The SN matches on the rifle match to the bolt 513XX.
I can tell you we had it since 1963. He bought this used and the 300 win mag new.

The question I was after is the bolt is different it looks like it has a stripper clip slide and 300 does not.

Attached Images
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 7,380
Likes: 2
P
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
P
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 7,380
Likes: 2

The stripper clip slot was machined in all Type 1/Pre-War standard actions for all calibers other than the H&H Mag cartridges.
The stripper clip slot in that action is correct.


"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
Hunter S. Thompson
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 48,323
Likes: 40
B
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
B
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 48,323
Likes: 40
Originally Posted by 79S
Someone buff the bluing off the bolt? Because I’m 99.9% pretty sure they didn’t come from Winchester like that.. and the bolt looks like it’s been jeweled..

Yep, someone worked it over a bit..


Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.

BSA MAGA
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 48,323
Likes: 40
B
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
B
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 48,323
Likes: 40
Originally Posted by Jim2914
Thanks,
The SN matches on the rifle match to the bolt 513XX.
I can tell you we had it since 1963. He bought this used and the 300 win mag new.

The question I was after is the bolt is different it looks like it has a stripper clip slide and 300 does not.

Your question was very vague. So you aren't asking about the bolt, it seems. There's no stripper clip in the bolt...


Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.

BSA MAGA
IC B3

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 20,817
Likes: 2
B
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
B
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 20,817
Likes: 2
Had a Pre 64 FWT with a factory jeweled bolt. Friend of the family worked for W and took it to replace a cracked stock. Came back with the bolt jeweled. Rifle went to the factory and back in his car.

Had no reason then to have it verified. 482406 in .30-06 is out there someplace with a jeweled bolt some would say is not factory original.

Last edited by battue; 02/08/22.

laissez les bons temps rouler

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

574 members (12344mag, 1beaver_shooter, 06hunter59, 10gaugemag, 10gaugeman, 1234, 68 invisible), 2,478 guests, and 1,180 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,194,466
Posts18,529,218
Members74,033
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.140s Queries: 38 (0.019s) Memory: 0.8481 MB (Peak: 0.9267 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-05-22 14:32:25 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS