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Originally Posted by smokepole
Would it surprise anyone if I told you I've known more than one "bowhunter " with no physical impairments who told me they had a friend who was a doctor that would write the letter for them?

Maybe that's why Montana said no to crossbows.


Pa GC gave up on medical exams for that reason. Everyone that wanted one found a Doc to write an excuse....combined with the crossbow manufacturer's lobbying both the politicians and the GC,

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Think of all the things the government has fuuckked up, yep pretty much everything they’ve ever been involved with, and you want to include our favorite pastime in that mess? You need your head examined.


Whoa now, that would be expensive, what with the multiple doctors you'd need.

A neurologist to examine the head, and a proctologist to get access to it.



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Some of the people who park in the handicap parking spots are better off than some of us. I believe in state rights and there's no way to please all the people.


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I think all the special interest hunting groups need to go away. If deer season is open, use whatever the state says is legal. Meaning no blackpowder seasons, no bow, seasons, no I have to wear depends seasons.

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well thank you gentlemen for your comments rather they are positive or negative . thanks again


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Originally Posted by BradinVA
I think all the special interest hunting groups need to go away. If deer season is open, use whatever the state says is legal. Meaning no blackpowder seasons, no bow, seasons, no I have to wear depends seasons.


You left out the kids early season.


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Originally Posted by BradinVA
I think all the special interest hunting groups need to go away. If deer season is open, use whatever the state says is legal. Meaning no blackpowder seasons, no bow, seasons, no I have to wear depends seasons.



Too much money to be made selling tags for all the different seasons. At least here in CO.

Hell, we have 4+ rifle seasons.


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Arizona recently changed their law so that a person with a crossbow permit can use a pneumatically fired weapon during archery season. There are a few outfits making air rifles that fire bolts! Someone must have had some serious [bleep] on the commission .


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Interesting discussion so here is my two cents.
After shooting and hunting with a bow for close to 70 years I can no longer pull back and holds a bow.
I'm now permanently cross bow legal in NV, UT, AZ, CA, with only CO giving me a hard time.
Last year I hunted the spike archery season in UT. At 76 years of age it allowed me to get off my butt and explore some beautiful Utah country. Never got closer than 200 yards to an elk but had a great time.
The year before I pulled an archery bull tag in AZ and took 1 shot resulting in taking a 6x6 bull.
Just because we get old or we are a NR doesn't mean we should stay home watching tv instead of being out in woods listening to the bulls bugle.

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Thats a false proposition. Nobody has to stay home or give up elk hunting just because they can't pull a bow.



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Originally Posted by FoxTrotter
Interesting discussion so here is my two cents.
After shooting and hunting with a bow for close to 70 years I can no longer pull back and holds a bow.
I'm now permanently cross bow legal in NV, UT, AZ, CA, with only CO giving me a hard time.
Last year I hunted the spike archery season in UT. At 76 years of age it allowed me to get off my butt and explore some beautiful Utah country. Never got closer than 200 yards to an elk but had a great time.
The year before I pulled an archery bull tag in AZ and took 1 shot resulting in taking a 6x6 bull.
Just because we get old or we are a NR doesn't mean we should stay home watching tv instead of being out in woods listening to the bulls bugle.



With all due respect and now it's my turn for two cents, that is a load of BS.

If you are too old, or when I get too old to pull a bow back and hold, I will stop bow hunting. Old age is not why the law is in place and is not an excuse to not get out.


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Originally Posted by dennisinaz
Arizona recently changed their law so that a person with a crossbow permit can use a pneumatically fired weapon during archery season. There are a few outfits making air rifles that fire bolts! Someone must have had some serious [bleep] on the commission .


The commissioners don't even hunt on average...


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If most bow seasons were not during the rut, and usually the best weather, it wouldn’t be as attractive to so many.


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No doubt about that.



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Originally Posted by FoxTrotter
Interesting discussion so here is my two cents.
After shooting and hunting with a bow for close to 70 years I can no longer pull back and holds a bow.
I'm now permanently cross bow legal in NV, UT, AZ, CA, with only CO giving me a hard time.
Last year I hunted the spike archery season in UT. At 76 years of age it allowed me to get off my butt and explore some beautiful Utah country. Never got closer than 200 yards to an elk but had a great time.
The year before I pulled an archery bull tag in AZ and took 1 shot resulting in taking a 6x6 bull.
Just because we get old or we are a NR doesn't mean we should stay home watching tv instead of being out in woods listening to the bulls bugle.


good for you sir ! some people on this site don`t understand old bowhunters many of us started with a long bow we never had it easy from the beginning with like a compound bow ,release aid ,80 % letoff ,pre sharpened broadheads , sights ,peeps we hunted barebow and bows were drawn then held and released by our fingers, we helped establish archery seasons . but now that we are old and have health issues these new boys in archery just wanna throw us under the bus tell us to stay home . its funny my 30 year old son who has won many state and national titles in archery in the hard classes with 300 scores set records with 300`s 60 x`s also has shot large bull elk on public land with me and whitetail - muledeer too with his bow. son also feel`s we should allow handi-cap hunters to use a x-bow in archery season ,son says what is the big deal we can only tag one animal per legal license per year and us old bowhunters our years are numbered anyway and we can`t get around well either anyway . myself and no i am not staying home to die i have hunted with a bow for almost 60 years now you have to be a real bowhunter who has followed blood trails to understand the reason.

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Originally Posted by FoxTrotter
Interesting discussion so here is my two cents.
After shooting and hunting with a bow for close to 70 years I can no longer pull back and holds a bow.
I'm now permanently cross bow legal in NV, UT, AZ, CA, with only CO giving me a hard time.
Last year I hunted the spike archery season in UT. At 76 years of age it allowed me to get off my butt and explore some beautiful Utah country. Never got closer than 200 yards to an elk but had a great time.
The year before I pulled an archery bull tag in AZ and took 1 shot resulting in taking a 6x6 bull.
Just because we get old or we are a NR doesn't mean we should stay home watching tv instead of being out in woods listening to the bulls bugle.



I hope your pushing for legalized prostitution as well.

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Originally Posted by pete53
but now that we are old and have health issues these new boys in archery just wanna throw us under the bus tell us to stay home .



That's bullsh*t pete, and you know it.



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Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by pete53
but now that we are old and have health issues these new boys in archery just wanna throw us under the bus tell us to stay home .



That's bullsh*t pete, and you know it.

Pete is the only " real" bow hunter smokepole the rest of us don't understand. FOR FUGG SAKE ive heard it all.

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Originally Posted by pete53
Originally Posted by FoxTrotter
Interesting discussion so here is my two cents.
After shooting and hunting with a bow for close to 70 years I can no longer pull back and holds a bow.
I'm now permanently cross bow legal in NV, UT, AZ, CA, with only CO giving me a hard time.
Last year I hunted the spike archery season in UT. At 76 years of age it allowed me to get off my butt and explore some beautiful Utah country. Never got closer than 200 yards to an elk but had a great time.
The year before I pulled an archery bull tag in AZ and took 1 shot resulting in taking a 6x6 bull.
Just because we get old or we are a NR doesn't mean we should stay home watching tv instead of being out in woods listening to the bulls bugle.


good for you sir ! some people on this site don`t understand old bowhunters many of us started with a long bow we never had it easy from the beginning with like a compound bow ,release aid ,80 % letoff ,pre sharpened broadheads , sights ,peeps we hunted barebow and bows were drawn then held and released by our fingers, we helped establish archery seasons . but now that we are old and have health issues these new boys in archery just wanna throw us under the bus tell us to stay home . its funny my 30 year old son who has won many state and national titles in archery in the hard classes with 300 scores set records with 300`s 60 x`s also has shot large bull elk on public land with me and whitetail - muledeer too with his bow. son also feel`s we should allow handi-cap hunters to use a x-bow in archery season ,son says what is the big deal we can only tag one animal per legal license per year and us old bowhunters our years are numbered anyway and we can`t get around well either anyway . myself and no i am not staying home to die i have hunted with a bow for almost 60 years now you have to be a real bowhunter who has followed blood trails to understand the reason.





Pete.



Here the archers get a 7 week season in the best time of the year....traditional bow, compound or cross... I know some who could be using traditional or compound, but....no they are using crossbows. Now get this..almost 50% of the Bucks in Pa are killed by the archery crowd in their 7 week season. And most of the big Bucks are killed by them. That leaves the rifle hunters with a 2 week season. I'm not against old bowhunters...it is to the point I am against the whole crew and how far they have taken the original one week traditional bow season they originally lobbied for.

Now...Here in Pa the young kids can shoot Bucks without being concerned with antler restrictions. And I'm all for it...Now the GC in their benevolence, gives the short time old farts a special early 3 day rifle season..But guess what, they can only shoot a Doe with the required purchased Doe tag. Yet, I don't any hear any of them complaining about being old, having hunted for years, having little time left, and not being given a special opportunity to shoot a rifle Buck on those three days. When the weather is warm and it isn't that far off from the rut. Yet the archers, young and old have the best of times. You think maybe the archers would be willing to give up three days to the old rifle hunters...Nope won't happen.

I for one, am tired of the archery crew getting their azz kissed...Young or old.


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Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by pete53
but now that we are old and have health issues these new boys in archery just wanna throw us under the bus tell us to stay home .



That's bullsh*t pete, and you know it.


Edited to be nicer as there is no need to confirm Pete's well documented cluelessness ...


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