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How rare? #16953752 02/12/22
Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 107 Central Arizona D dave358 OP Campfire Member
OP dave358 Campfire Member D Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 107 Central Arizona	I had to ask the experts here about my new old gun, I believe it to be a G in 300. My question is about the scope mounts, are ball and claw scope mounts uncommon on 50s guns? There are no german proofs on the gun but it has a german scope with b and c mounts as well as a two leaf express sight. The gun is in great condition, the mounts and sight are engraved it just has no other german looking marks. The serial is 654xxx, any opinion on rarity and value are appreciated, I got it for six so it will be a great hunting gun either way. Thanks for all your help!

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Re: How rare? dave358 #16954011 02/12/22
Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,005 SW MICHIGAN Polecat Campfire Regular
Polecat Campfire Regular Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,005 SW MICHIGAN	It should be a R or EG with that serial#. EG has a scnhable forearm and the R has a rounded front end on the forearm. Can't help with the scope mounts. Lee

Re: How rare? dave358 #16954028 02/12/22
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Blitz Campfire Regular B Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 618 Sandy Hook CT	PICTURES! Happiness is the purpose of Conscious Life

Re: How rare? dave358 #16954130 02/12/22
Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 107 Central Arizona D dave358 OP Campfire Member
OP dave358 Campfire Member D Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 107 Central Arizona	Sorry Polecat I dropped the e in eg and did not notice, as far as pics in every other way just a nice eg except for the sights

Re: How rare? Polecat #16954151 02/12/22
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99guy Campfire Outfitter 9 Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 9,327 Va	Originally Posted by Polecat It should be a R or EG with that serial#. EG has a scnhable forearm and the R has a rounded front end on the forearm. Can't help with the scope mounts. Lee This ^ I would add that it is not rare and $600 was reasonable, could be worth more or even considerably more in today's market especially if it has condition and no extra non factory holes. If it's an R, most likely factory D&T. If it's an EG, maybe, maybe not Hard to make a guess on the mounts without pictures. Does the gun have a scope on it? "You cannot invade mainland America. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass" ~Admiral Yamamoto~ When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. ~Thomas Jefferson~

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Re: How rare? dave358 #16954458 02/12/22
Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 107 Central Arizona D dave358 OP Campfire Member
OP dave358 Campfire Member D Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 107 Central Arizona	Yes 99guy,the rifle has claw mounts with a german scope. It is an eg I just did not notice I left off the e. I guess I should explain that claw mounts have a pad installed on the gun which has two parallel slots the scope has the rings mounted to it and these rings have the claw that locks into these slots. The pads on this rifle are located just in front of the receiver and the rear is just in front of the cocking indicator pin. This system is a great for having a quick detach scope that holds zero very well. I was surprised to find an American gun with such an expensive set up in the usa that had no proof marks from another country.

Re: How rare? dave358 #16954498 02/12/22
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99guy Campfire Outfitter 9 Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 9,327 Va	We'd love to see a picture of that set-up. I can just about guarantee there are guys here that could tell you everything there is to know about it. "You cannot invade mainland America. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass" ~Admiral Yamamoto~ When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. ~Thomas Jefferson~

Re: How rare? dave358 #16954657 02/12/22
Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 107 Central Arizona D dave358 OP Campfire Member
OP dave358 Campfire Member D Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 107 Central Arizona	I will try to put up some photos tomorrow,I am not the most computer talented old fart here, I guess that's why my brain keeps mixing my scope mounts and furniture legs, the proper term is claw mounts I have not made a ball and claw chair leg in quite a while cheers!

Re: How rare? dave358 #16957339 02/13/22
Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 107 Central Arizona D dave358 OP Campfire Member
OP dave358 Campfire Member D Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 107 Central Arizona	Sorry but I cannot upload images, thanks for your replies

Re: How rare? dave358 #16964926 02/15/22
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Skidrow Campfire Tracker Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,288 Tennessee	It likely was sold through the Rod and Gun system in Germany and brought home by a GI at the end of his tour after having a German smith install the mounts. Go tell the Spartans,Travelers passing by,That here,Obedient to their laws we lie. I'm older now but I'm still runnin' against the wind

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Re: How rare? dave358 #16965259 02/15/22
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S99VG Campfire Tracker S Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 7,292 Northern California	Yeah, I'd venture a guess that those scope mounts are 110% non-factory. An add on like what anyone woud have done with Weaver or Refield mounts. However, much more exotic than domestic mounts and not often seen (or seen at all). "The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle." John Stapp - "Stapp's Law" "Klaatu barada nikto"

Re: How rare? dave358 #16967623 02/16/22
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JoeMartin Campfire Tracker J Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,167 Mt Airy, MD	I've learned there is a big difference in rarity and value. I had a 58 English Ford Zodiac. When I joined the English Ford Club of America, they went nuts. It was the only one on their files that was two tone Red and Black. They said there were only 5 known registered running Zodiacs in North America. I finally sold it to a British guy in California who had one growing up in England. Looked like we were the only two people on earth that wanted it. He gave me $1750 for it. I think I bought 2-3 run of the mill 99's with it. I'm not greedy, I just want one of each. Remember Ira Hayes JoeMartin

Re: How rare? dave358 #16970842 02/17/22
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wyo1895 Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 6,516 Wyoming	my first car was an English Ford Anglia. I hated it, sold it after a few months and got a 1936 Chevy two door standard. wyo1895 With Savage never say never. For a copy of my book on engraved Savage lever actions rifles send a check for $80 to; David Royal, p.o. box 1271, Pinedale, Wy., 82941. I will sign and inscribe the book for you. [email protected]

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