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Frick you, Yankee. Carry your arse out of Texas you statist [bleep].

You ever wondered how so few of you seem to have the only real understanding of historical figures and circumstances?

That war may have ended, but "Reconstruction" has not. Kinda comical watching those Union States deal with it.

A very long list, but I'll start with a few.

1. The southern states had a right to secede from the Union. He refused to evacuate Ft. Sumter.
2. He was a lawyer
3. He graphically disrupted the Judicial Branch and violated the Constitution with a variety of executive orders
4. The Emancipation Proclamation? Right, this is the wanker that wanted to send the slaves back to Africa. His Indian name was "Talks from both sides of mouth".
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And to enslave men to a centralized state.

Your problem is that you were born into a cage, so cannot even perceive the bars.

I grew up in Kentucky and had Lincoln crammed down my throat as a kid. When I was old enough to figure things out it became evident what a [bleep] the man was. He destroyed the Union so that it could be rebuilt as a progressive nation.

My in laws are from Minnesota and Michigan. My wife’s maternal grand father thought Lincoln was just below Jesus in stature. I don’t miss a chance to point out what the bastard did to this country and the legacy that he left in a bastardized government.

Those who state Lincoln was indifferent to slavery ignore his masterwork completed in the last year of his life even though the war was still on; the 13th Amendment to the Constitution banning slavery everywhere.

Those who state the War Over Secession had nothing to do with slavery ignore the entirety of US politics up to that point and the compromises made to appease the South and avoid secession.

They also ignore the fact that slave-grown cotton was the backbone of the Southern economy to the point that the great majority of their elected politicians, for decades prior to and during the war, were from the slave-dependent Plantation Aristocracy and made their policy decisions accordingly.

Lincoln was on record as opposing slavery and the expansion of that institution as a freshman member of Congress as early as 1847 when he was one of the few who would question the motives and constitutional validly (ironic I know) of our entry into the Mexican War.

This unpopular stance on principle cost him reelection, and the memory of his stance thirteen years later likely made his election as President in 1860 an exceptionally bitter pill to the South.

I think it safe to say that, without slavery, the War Over Secession would never have happened.

Surprise the Judicial branch has defied the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution at will many times throughout our history.
Lincoln and many others have the slaves a choice to go back to Africa. Specifically Liberia but many declined because they considered themselves Americans.
https://history.state.gov/milestones/1830-1860/liberia

Who cares? The South still had the right to leave and Lincoln still destroyed the Republic.

Lincoln and his radical yankee northeastern supporters and their descendants murdered a republic based on liberty and consent of the governed, then replaced it with a yankee empire.

The “free men from slavery” argument is Bu llshit.

Rain shot.

Would YOU die to give freedom to people that you didn’t know? How many people do you know who would sacrifice their life or even consider sacrificing their life for people that they didn’t know? How about lining up several million Americans who would sign up for that gig.

With William Wilberforce having defeated slavery within the British Empire we have further evidence that a war was not needed. Please, save your stupid arguments for the ignorant masses who don’t possess the ability to string 10 neurons together in thought.

Slavery, as an institution, was on its way out for other reasons anyway. It was becoming increasingly unpopular, even in the South. The best solution would have been to declare a certain date after which no one could be born into slavery, and continue the ban on importing them (which had already been long in place), while providing incentives for freeing slaves already in captivity.

How do you spell Covid 1860s style.

C-i-v-i-l W-a-r or War of Northern Agression. (To lazy to spell it)

Good luck getting an honest, unbiased report.

Most who have an opinion, have an agenda.
Often, it's easy to guess, by their location.

Both sides make valad points.
Some require a bit of imagination, pretending to know the present
results of the "What If's"




Always read these threads seeking some enlightened Truth.
Always come away from an argument with no more solid unbiased
information than before.


This will be fun now.
Which side attacks this? Both?😉

I think it's safe to say that without China, Covid-19 would not have happened. Like slavery, there probably was no comfortable way out of those facts.

So let's torture the good people.

Did Lincoln fight that war all by hisself?

You might think that from listening to his detractors.

There were some hundreds of thousands of men, including more’n a few from the South, who thought preserving the Union was a cause worth dying for.

Yes, they were the bad guys.

Who gives a frick? There have never been shortages of people willing to enslave and conquer others. May as well argue that Ghengis Kahn was a good guy because plenty of people were willing to help him out and fight for him.

I might if I believed I would one day stand before God Almighty in judgement and account for my life.

So what advice did Paul give slaves? There were probably ten times more of them at that moment in the Roman world than there ever were in America.

There were more Slaves in this Country in 1860 than at any point in history thanks to the cotton gin. There is no historical evidence slavery was dying out. Only evidence that it had become unpopular in England and in the northern States